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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 17:24:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 17:33:49 GMT
Figured I'd talk about Snowpiercer here, since I don't think anyone else has watched.
For those who don't know what it's about, it takes place in a dystopian future where an attempt to combat global warming caused the world to freeze. The only surviving humans live on a luxury train than circles the entire world every year, but it's split into several classes. Those who paid to be on the train, either before or after the world froze live in the front, with lavish luxuries and need to worry about nothing. Those who boarded the train to survive live in the back, and are treated as less than human. After 17 years, Curtis Everett organizes a revolt, and plans to make his way to the engine, kill Wilford, the man controlling the train, and take control for himself, ending the abuse of the "tailenders".
As a whole, it's probably one of the best movies I've ever seen. I'd still like to break down what I liked about it and what I didn't(I'll tag any spoilers).
Pros:
Pretty much every other scene is something incredible. It's a movie that begs to be talked about, with incredible, jaw-dropping moments happening every few minutes. Whether it's an intense action sequence, a shocking revelation, or a speech given by one of the characters, there's not a single moment in this movie where your attention could be lost. It's genuinely riveting.
It's also a very intelligent movie. Some of the science-fiction elements need to be overlooked, but it's got a very smart commentary on human nature underlying the whole thing. It's dark and disturbing, and shows the worst that people can be.
Cinematography is top-notch. There's some really just incredible moments.
Cons:
The ending is shit. It's a half-measure, and there was no reason for it to be. It could have been perfect, but they fucked it up in an attempt to get one last emotional gut punch that falls flat because it ruins the ending.
Although the characters are very compelling, and the main character, Curtis, will probably be one of my favorite characters in a movie, we don't really get to know most of them. Aside from the three main-main characters, we don't get to know the others too well. The movie could have definitely benefited from a good half-hour dedicated to character development, spread throughout the whole thing. Most of it probably should have been done in the beginning. Maybe more build-up before the actions starts would have turned some people off, but it would have helped to make later deaths more emotional if we as the viewers felt like we knew the characters a little better.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 17:44:39 GMT
Now, spoilers. My complaints about the ending and why it is literally the worst: The ending, according to the director and screenwriter, was meant to be optimistic... but it isn't. Because Timmy and Yona are dead. That polar bear ate them five minutes after the credits ended. no Curtis to protect them. And how about the cold? Even if Curtis had survived(which he should have), they still would have died because Namgoong was the only one who knew how to survive out in the cold. Maybe, maybe Curtis could have figured it out, but I don't think so.
The only way I'd be willing to buy an optimistic ending is if Curtis and Namgoong had also survived, but no, they died for one last emotional moment in the story, and it's fails(also, why the fuck doesn't Yona or Timmy mourn Curtis? In fact, where was his corpse even?).
I mean, even if they were perfectly healthy, they'd be dead. But Timmy has been tortured and his malnourished, and Yona is going to start going through some major withdrawal since they blew up the last of the Kronol. No, they're dead. Humanity is now extinct.
And, I would have been okay with an ending in which they all die and humanity is extinct. At least more than a half-measure. There was the opportunity for it, just have no one survive the bomb. Would have still been a shit ending, but maybe not as shit.
But like I said, if they wanted an optimistic ending... why not have Curtis and Namgoong survive, too? At least Curtis, who by all means should have lived.
I mean, they should have either had Curtis in some way sacrifice himself so that Namgoong, Yona, and Timmy live(go outside and shut the gate before the bomb goes off, I don't know), or had him live. Also, his death undermines the whole sacrifice thing like, 2 minutes before his death. Curtis doesn't think he's a worthy leader because he's a coward. When Gilliam cuts his arm off to save baby Edgar, Curtis is inspired. Soon, other people start cutting off their own limbs so no one has to die to be food, but Curtis is too much of a coward to do it. He doesn't think he's worthy to lead or protect anyone.
Then at the end, they have him lose his arm to save Timmy... So that natural extension of that is for him to protect Namgoong, Yona, and Timmy, and be their leader outside the train, right? Movie says no. Movie says Curtis finally sacrifices something to protect someone else, then dies protecting no one and for no reason.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Apr 19, 2015 21:47:29 GMT
Figured I'd talk about Snowpiercer here, since I don't think anyone else has watched. For those who don't know what it's about, it takes place in a dystopian future where an attempt to combat global warming caused the world to freeze. The only surviving humans live on a luxury train than circles the entire world every year, but it's split into several classes. Those who paid to be on the train, either before or after the world froze live in the front, with lavish luxuries and need to worry about nothing. Those who boarded the train to survive live in the back, and are treated as less than human. After 17 years, Curtis Everett organizes a revolt, and plans to make his way to the engine, kill Wilford, the man controlling the train, and take control for himself, ending the abuse of the "tailenders". As a whole, it's probably one of the best movies I've ever seen. I'd still like to break down what I liked about it and what I didn't(I'll tag any spoilers). Pros: Pretty much every other scene is something incredible. It's a movie that begs to be talked about, with incredible, jaw-dropping moments happening every few minutes. Whether it's an intense action sequence, a shocking revelation, or a speech given by one of the characters, there's not a single moment in this movie where your attention could be lost. It's genuinely riveting. It's also a very intelligent movie. Some of the science-fiction elements need to be overlooked, but it's got a very smart commentary on human nature underlying the whole thing. It's dark and disturbing, and shows the worst that people can be. Cinematography is top-notch. There's some really just incredible moments. Cons: The ending is shit. It's a half-measure, and there was no reason for it to be. It could have been perfect, but they fucked it up in an attempt to get one last emotional gut punch that falls flat because it ruins the ending. Although the characters are very compelling, and the main character, Curtis, will probably be one of my favorite characters in a movie, we don't really get to know most of them. Aside from the three main-main characters, we don't get to know the others too well. The movie could have definitely benefited from a good half-hour dedicated to character development, spread throughout the whole thing. Most of it probably should have been done in the beginning. Maybe more build-up before the actions starts would have turned some people off, but it would have helped to make later deaths more emotional if we as the viewers felt like we knew the characters a little better. Yep, a pretty good movie, Captain America was good in it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 22:24:59 GMT
Figured I'd talk about Snowpiercer here, since I don't think anyone else has watched. For those who don't know what it's about, it takes place in a dystopian future where an attempt to combat global warming caused the world to freeze. The only surviving humans live on a luxury train than circles the entire world every year, but it's split into several classes. Those who paid to be on the train, either before or after the world froze live in the front, with lavish luxuries and need to worry about nothing. Those who boarded the train to survive live in the back, and are treated as less than human. After 17 years, Curtis Everett organizes a revolt, and plans to make his way to the engine, kill Wilford, the man controlling the train, and take control for himself, ending the abuse of the "tailenders". As a whole, it's probably one of the best movies I've ever seen. I'd still like to break down what I liked about it and what I didn't(I'll tag any spoilers). Pros: Pretty much every other scene is something incredible. It's a movie that begs to be talked about, with incredible, jaw-dropping moments happening every few minutes. Whether it's an intense action sequence, a shocking revelation, or a speech given by one of the characters, there's not a single moment in this movie where your attention could be lost. It's genuinely riveting. It's also a very intelligent movie. Some of the science-fiction elements need to be overlooked, but it's got a very smart commentary on human nature underlying the whole thing. It's dark and disturbing, and shows the worst that people can be. Cinematography is top-notch. There's some really just incredible moments. Cons: The ending is shit. It's a half-measure, and there was no reason for it to be. It could have been perfect, but they fucked it up in an attempt to get one last emotional gut punch that falls flat because it ruins the ending. Although the characters are very compelling, and the main character, Curtis, will probably be one of my favorite characters in a movie, we don't really get to know most of them. Aside from the three main-main characters, we don't get to know the others too well. The movie could have definitely benefited from a good half-hour dedicated to character development, spread throughout the whole thing. Most of it probably should have been done in the beginning. Maybe more build-up before the actions starts would have turned some people off, but it would have helped to make later deaths more emotional if we as the viewers felt like we knew the characters a little better. Yep, a pretty good movie, Captain America was good in it. And Captain America was...?
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Apr 19, 2015 23:46:55 GMT
Yep, a pretty good movie, Captain America was good in it. And Captain America was...? Chris Evan, the actor I mean. He was the main guy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 0:03:20 GMT
And Captain America was...? Chris Evan, the actor I mean. He was the main guy. Ah, okay.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 11:34:42 GMT
Anyone here watched Chronicle? That was a pretty great movie. Though, I seem to remember that near the end, they kind of ditched the whole "the movie is being filmed within the film" thing and just started using cameras that didn't exist in the film world. Either that, or when [redacted] made everyone's cellphones that were recording fly away and destroyed them, he kept one just floating around for... reasons.
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Post by Autobot Sonic on Apr 20, 2015 18:08:53 GMT
Anyone here watched Chronicle? That was a pretty great movie. Though, I seem to remember that near the end, they kind of ditched the whole "the movie is being filmed within the film" thing and just started using cameras that didn't exist in the film world. Either that, or when [redacted] made everyone's cellphones that were recording fly away and destroyed them, he kept one just floating around for... reasons. That's what they did.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 19:01:57 GMT
Anyone here watched Chronicle? That was a pretty great movie. Though, I seem to remember that near the end, they kind of ditched the whole "the movie is being filmed within the film" thing and just started using cameras that didn't exist in the film world. Either that, or when [redacted] made everyone's cellphones that were recording fly away and destroyed them, he kept one just floating around for... reasons. That's what they did. ....Well.... that's fucking stupid. Still, that was a pretty great movie.
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Post by wakemeup on Apr 20, 2015 21:06:48 GMT
Watched the wolf of wall street lately. Good movie. Lots of tits, unexpectedly. Good main character. 8.8/8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 21:36:12 GMT
I have yet to watch The Wolf of Wall Street.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 22:33:24 GMT
Now, spoilers. My complaints about the ending and why it is literally the worst: The ending, according to the director and screenwriter, was meant to be optimistic... but it isn't. Because Timmy and Yona are dead. That polar bear ate them five minutes after the credits ended. no Curtis to protect them. And how about the cold? Even if Curtis had survived(which he should have), they still would have died because Namgoong was the only one who knew how to survive out in the cold. Maybe, maybe Curtis could have figured it out, but I don't think so.
The only way I'd be willing to buy an optimistic ending is if Curtis and Namgoong had also survived, but no, they died for one last emotional moment in the story, and it's fails(also, why the fuck doesn't Yona or Timmy mourn Curtis? In fact, where was his corpse even?).
I mean, even if they were perfectly healthy, they'd be dead. But Timmy has been tortured and his malnourished, and Yona is going to start going through some major withdrawal since they blew up the last of the Kronol. No, they're dead. Humanity is now extinct.
And, I would have been okay with an ending in which they all die and humanity is extinct. At least more than a half-measure. There was the opportunity for it, just have no one survive the bomb. Would have still been a shit ending, but maybe not as shit.
But like I said, if they wanted an optimistic ending... why not have Curtis and Namgoong survive, too? At least Curtis, who by all means should have lived.
I mean, they should have either had Curtis in some way sacrifice himself so that Namgoong, Yona, and Timmy live(go outside and shut the gate before the bomb goes off, I don't know), or had him live. Also, his death undermines the whole sacrifice thing like, 2 minutes before his death. Curtis doesn't think he's a worthy leader because he's a coward. When Gilliam cuts his arm off to save baby Edgar, Curtis is inspired. Soon, other people start cutting off their own limbs so no one has to die to be food, but Curtis is too much of a coward to do it. He doesn't think he's worthy to lead or protect anyone.
Then at the end, they have him lose his arm to save Timmy... So that natural extension of that is for him to protect Namgoong, Yona, and Timmy, and be their leader outside the train, right? Movie says no. Movie says Curtis finally sacrifices something to protect someone else, then dies protecting no one and for no reason. Yeah, I also found the ending a bit of a let down. Feels like the four of them should have survived, and I don't think two adult male bodies are enough to shield a teenager and a kid from a huge ass explosion. I'm no scientist but Curtis and Namgoong seemed to be vaporised by the explosion, so surely Yona and Timmy would have sustained some minor burns at least?
That said, the film itself had some pretty good cinematography. Though it was all filmed in boxes, they succeeded in making each train car feel less claustrophobic than the last as they moved up through the carriages, plus there was that awesome utilisation of the track where Curtis and the other guy shot at each other through the windows as the train went around a bend.
Also massive TTG moment in the carriage with the first major fight, where Curtis chooses between saving Edgar and restraining Mason.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 22:46:52 GMT
Now, spoilers. My complaints about the ending and why it is literally the worst: The ending, according to the director and screenwriter, was meant to be optimistic... but it isn't. Because Timmy and Yona are dead. That polar bear ate them five minutes after the credits ended. no Curtis to protect them. And how about the cold? Even if Curtis had survived(which he should have), they still would have died because Namgoong was the only one who knew how to survive out in the cold. Maybe, maybe Curtis could have figured it out, but I don't think so.
The only way I'd be willing to buy an optimistic ending is if Curtis and Namgoong had also survived, but no, they died for one last emotional moment in the story, and it's fails(also, why the fuck doesn't Yona or Timmy mourn Curtis? In fact, where was his corpse even?).
I mean, even if they were perfectly healthy, they'd be dead. But Timmy has been tortured and his malnourished, and Yona is going to start going through some major withdrawal since they blew up the last of the Kronol. No, they're dead. Humanity is now extinct.
And, I would have been okay with an ending in which they all die and humanity is extinct. At least more than a half-measure. There was the opportunity for it, just have no one survive the bomb. Would have still been a shit ending, but maybe not as shit.
But like I said, if they wanted an optimistic ending... why not have Curtis and Namgoong survive, too? At least Curtis, who by all means should have lived.
I mean, they should have either had Curtis in some way sacrifice himself so that Namgoong, Yona, and Timmy live(go outside and shut the gate before the bomb goes off, I don't know), or had him live. Also, his death undermines the whole sacrifice thing like, 2 minutes before his death. Curtis doesn't think he's a worthy leader because he's a coward. When Gilliam cuts his arm off to save baby Edgar, Curtis is inspired. Soon, other people start cutting off their own limbs so no one has to die to be food, but Curtis is too much of a coward to do it. He doesn't think he's worthy to lead or protect anyone.
Then at the end, they have him lose his arm to save Timmy... So that natural extension of that is for him to protect Namgoong, Yona, and Timmy, and be their leader outside the train, right? Movie says no. Movie says Curtis finally sacrifices something to protect someone else, then dies protecting no one and for no reason. Yeah, I also found the ending a bit of a let down. Feels like the four of them should have survived, and I don't think two adult male bodies are enough to shield a teenager and a kid from a huge ass explosion. I'm no scientist but Curtis and Namgoong seemed to be vaporised by the explosion, so surely Yona and Timmy would have sustained some minor burns at least?
That said, the film itself had some pretty good cinematography. Though it was all filmed in boxes, they succeeded in making each train car feel less claustrophobic than the last as they moved up through the carriages, plus there was that awesome utilisation of the track where Curtis and the other guy shot at each other through the windows as the train went around a bend.
Also massive TTG moment in the carriage with the first major fight, where Curtis chooses between saving Edgar and restraining Mason. Namgoong wasn't quite vaporized, but Curtis' corpse was nowhere to be seen... so I guess he was?
Also, the fur fucking coats survive the explosion. ._.
And I agree about the movie's cinematography. The choreography during the fight scenes was great, too. The slow motion shot of Curtis just slaughtering the soldiers was phenomenal. Snowpiercer: A Telltale Games' Series Follows an alternate ending where Curtis, Namgoong, Yona, and Timmy all live. They find that other people from the front and the tail survived the explosion/de-railing, and they all have to learn to live together to survive. MAKE IT HAPPEN, TELLTALE!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 22:50:31 GMT
Also, I'm sure at least a few Tail-enders survived the avalanche, and some people from the cars that got de-railed in the tunnel had to have lived.
Curtis becomes their leader, but soon, some of the First Class "Passengers" make plans to kill Curtis, not wanting to follow the man who murdered Wilford(who they worshiped like a god).
Maybe have a time-skip, and Namgoong discovers that it's getting colder again. They need to find shelter other than the few undamaged train cars, and they go in search of a place they can call home.
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