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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 1, 2014 23:02:24 GMT
Bonnie strikes me as a character that exists to die, especially considering her sole purpose was to be their inside woman in Carver's camp who helped them out. Now that she has no blatant purpose any more, TTG will jump at the chance to kill her off. Considering she's from 400 days, though, they may hesitate and let her off with a determinant fate. I just hope that she'll be alive since she was my favorite character from 400 Days.  She was not my favorite in 400 Days first time I played, but she is pretty high up there, and has developed quite nicely, would be a waste to instantly kill her, then again, I didn't expect her to live through episode 3, I expected Carver to kill her, so what do I know?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 23:06:25 GMT
TTG Logic; "determinant > dead" Trust me, its not worth making someone determined, the character or characters in the choice is dead, simple as that, maybe you will have a big scene like Ben did in episode 5, but more likely you become Nick, someone that says very little, and does nothing, pretty much TWDG T Dog, and god was it a fucking waste of a amazing character, I mean Jesus! Why did they have to make it a choice? Why couldn't it have been either Walt saves him, or you save him, and you still get to hit Walt for almost killing Nick, problem solved, and we get more character development, but noooo, we have to waste a really interesting and relateable and developed flawed character for, what, everyone else who has not been developed? I didn't say I wanted anyone to become determinant, it's just that Telltale still makes characters determinant because they think it's a good idea.
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Post by sos on Jul 1, 2014 23:06:57 GMT
Just to chart the episode-by-episode group deaths. I'm excluding the non-heroes in this case. So no St. John's or Carver/Carver henchman.
Ep1: Doug/Carley. Ep2: Larry, Mark*. Ep3: Kat, Duck, Doug/Carley. Lily left behind. Ep4: Ben, Chuck*. Molly* left. Ep5: Ben, Lee. Kenny left behind.
Ep1: Omid, Pete. Christa left behind. Ep2: Pete, Alvin, Nick, Walter*. Ep3: Alvin, Carlos.
*Not really a core group member, but enough to warrant being listed.
Most Telltale's done as far as deaths or departures in a single episode go is four. I'm keeping this in mind when predicting. Nick, Mike, Sarita, Bonnie and Rebecca would be a SLAUGHTER-FEST.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 23:11:34 GMT
We also have to consider new characters.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 1, 2014 23:18:51 GMT
Trust me, its not worth making someone determined, the character or characters in the choice is dead, simple as that, maybe you will have a big scene like Ben did in episode 5, but more likely you become Nick, someone that says very little, and does nothing, pretty much TWDG T Dog, and god was it a fucking waste of a amazing character, I mean Jesus! Why did they have to make it a choice? Why couldn't it have been either Walt saves him, or you save him, and you still get to hit Walt for almost killing Nick, problem solved, and we get more character development, but noooo, we have to waste a really interesting and relateable and developed flawed character for, what, everyone else who has not been developed? I didn't say I wanted anyone to become determinant, it's just that Telltale still makes characters determinant because they think it's a good idea. Well I wish they would get there head out of there ass and see that its not a good idea!
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 1, 2014 23:20:29 GMT
Just to chart the episode-by-episode group deaths. I'm excluding the non-heroes in this case. So no St. John's or Carver/Carver henchman. Ep1: Doug/Carley. Ep2: Larry, Mark*. Ep3: Kat, Duck, Doug/Carley. Lily left behind. Ep4: Ben, Chuck*. Molly* left. Ep5: Ben, Lee. Kenny left behind. Ep1: Omid, Pete. Christa left behind. Ep2: Pete, Alvin, Nick, Walter*. Ep3: Alvin, Carlos. *Not really a core group member, but enough to warrant being listed. Most Telltale's done as far as deaths or departures in a single episode go is four. I'm keeping this in mind when predicting. Nick, Mike, Sarita, Bonnie and Rebecca would be a SLAUGHTER-FEST. Good eye, so four at the very most? It looks very possible that five is what is going to happen, that would be a new record for death.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 23:30:18 GMT
Alive:Clem, Luke, Mike, Jane, Bonnie, Eddie, Vince, Wyatt, Russell, Shel, Becca Dead:Kenny, Rebecca, Nick(if alive) Determinant:Sarah, Sarita
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 23:32:26 GMT
Just to chart the episode-by-episode group deaths. I'm excluding the non-heroes in this case. So no St. John's or Carver/Carver henchman. Ep1: Doug/Carley. Ep2: Larry, Mark*. Ep3: Kat, Duck, Doug/Carley. Lily left behind. Ep4: Ben, Chuck*. Molly* left. Ep5: Ben, Lee. Kenny left behind. Ep1: Omid, Pete. Christa left behind. Ep2: Pete, Alvin, Nick, Walter*. Ep3: Alvin, Carlos. *Not really a core group member, but enough to warrant being listed. Most Telltale's done as far as deaths or departures in a single episode go is four. I'm keeping this in mind when predicting. Nick, Mike, Sarita, Bonnie and Rebecca would be a SLAUGHTER-FEST. Good eye, so four at the very most? It looks very possible that five is what is going to happen, that would be a new record for death. Rules were made to be broken 
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 1, 2014 23:43:55 GMT
I suppose they are.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 1:06:16 GMT
Alive:Clem, Luke, Mike, Jane, Bonnie, Eddie, Vince, Wyatt, Russell, Shel, Becca Dead:Kenny, Rebecca, Nick(if alive) Determinant:Sarah, Sarita You think Kenny will die, but Sarita will be determinant?
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 2, 2014 1:25:37 GMT
I find that unlikely, I mean maybe she is determined for the episode? As in, dies a little bit later or under different circumstances?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 13:44:26 GMT
Yes, that seems quite likely, but it does seem that she will ultimately die either way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:58:45 GMT
Alive: Clem, Luke, Kenny, Jane Dead: Sarita, Rebecca, Nick, Mike Determinant: Sarah*, Bonnie I am 100% certain that Luke will be determinant and Kenny will be killed in Episode 5, though. *I have a feeling that it won't be a choice between life and death, it's more likely that we won't find her or something like that (after she ran away in Ep 3) but I imagine that the final scene of the season will show us Clementine alone in Wellington, where she suddenly finds Sarah (who will be much stronger mentally after all that happened) - and they both have to survive on their own. They will sit together and think about uncertain future - a beautiful ending to the season, don't you think? 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 17:02:44 GMT
I have a feeling that it won't be a choice between life and death, it's more likely that we won't find her or something like that (after she ran away in Ep 3) but I imagine that the final scene of the season will show us Clementine alone in Wellington, where she suddenly finds Sarah (who will be much stronger mentally after all that happened) - and they both have to survive on their own. They will sit together and think about uncertain future - a beautiful ending to the season, don't you think?  I think that Sarah is part of the reason Luke and Nick aren't with the group. If we find her and there's a determinant choice she won't live or die, she'll live and come with Clem or live and show up later with Luke.
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Post by Michael7123 on Jul 4, 2014 17:13:17 GMT
I know a lot of people think Bonnie will be determinate, I'm just wondering how that will play out? There is no reason to leave her behind, she is clearly on your side and not a screw up. It is possible that we could have a real "Doug vs Carley choice", but that would have to be at the start of the episode for it to be relevant.
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