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Post by wakemeup on Aug 11, 2017 16:40:13 GMT
Finally got around to playing the games, the story was real good, can't wait for 3rd. Rook's great, I had him alive for the second game, need to try Alette route someday, but Bolverk parts were my favorite. Was fun playing as a dick, for a change. I was still mostly helping out the others, but was being an ass about it, hopefully he's playable in the sequel, instead of being antagonist.
Mostly hated Rugga, but he started to respect me and made peace with me near the end. I also saved Ludin, so the last choice was hard. Decided to look out for my own, and it looks like the right choice, since otherwise I'd apparently fuck varl over, can't have that.
Somehow kept almost all companions alive, except the kid with the shield at start, and Ludin's witch, but she randomly came back later. Also told Mogun/Hogun, whichever, to be with his family.
Ending to 2nd was a bit confusing, I guess horseborn betrayed the caravan? And Serpent is with Bolverk for whatever reason. Bit too many cliffhangers.
also, fuck onef
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 5:25:25 GMT
Finally got around to playing the games, the story was real good, can't wait for 3rd. Rook's great, I had him alive for the second game, need to try Alette route someday, but Bolverk parts were my favorite. Was fun playing as a dick, for a change. I was still mostly helping out the others, but was being an ass about it, hopefully he's playable in the sequel, instead of being antagonist.
Mostly hated Rugga, but he started to respect me and made peace with me near the end. I also saved Ludin, so the last choice was hard. Decided to look out for my own, and it looks like the right choice, since otherwise I'd apparently fuck varl over, can't have that.
Somehow kept almost all companions alive, except the kid with the shield at start, and Ludin's witch, but she randomly came back later. Also told Mogun/Hogun, whichever, to be with his family.
Ending to 2nd was a bit confusing, I guess horseborn betrayed the caravan? And Serpent is with Bolverk for whatever reason. Bit too many cliffhangers.
also, fuck onef Did you kill Eyeless? I've gone through Banner Saga 2 twice now but didn't kill her either time. First time was because I just didn't want to, second was because I barely survived the first part of the battle with her and there was no way I would've been able to finish her off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 5:32:58 GMT
Replayed Banner Saga 1 That fucking ending gets me every single time. This time the tears started a bit earlier, at the smith, when Alette says, "Promise me we'll be together".
I ended up using Ekkil a lot and I realized that Ekkil might be one of my favorite characters. Not just combat wise - though he's great in combat if you manage to position him to use his ability without hurting allies - but also from a story standpoint. He isn't crazy, he's just... broken. Has nothing left to live for, and so he follows whoever is able to give him a sense of purpose. He's got very little regard for his own life but cares a lot about others. It struck me that one of the most memorable lines of the game for me, "we need her, not another you", came from Ekkil. He was the one who opened Rook's eyes to how Alette was the one making life worth living for a lot of people. I thought Ekkil was underutilized in the second. He joins the Ravens, which makes sense - who better to give him a sense of purpose than Bolverk, one of the most imposing characters in the whole game? But he doesn't do much until the death march when he pretty much offers to sacrifice himself to protect the caravan. I chose to not let him go on his suicide mission, so hopefully, he gets some sort of ending in Banner Saga 3. A heroic sacrifice, or maybe surviving until the end and finding a sense of purpose from within. I don't know, something.
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Post by wakemeup on Aug 20, 2017 5:52:11 GMT
Finally got around to playing the games, the story was real good, can't wait for 3rd. Rook's great, I had him alive for the second game, need to try Alette route someday, but Bolverk parts were my favorite. Was fun playing as a dick, for a change. I was still mostly helping out the others, but was being an ass about it, hopefully he's playable in the sequel, instead of being antagonist.
Mostly hated Rugga, but he started to respect me and made peace with me near the end. I also saved Ludin, so the last choice was hard. Decided to look out for my own, and it looks like the right choice, since otherwise I'd apparently fuck varl over, can't have that.
Somehow kept almost all companions alive, except the kid with the shield at start, and Ludin's witch, but she randomly came back later. Also told Mogun/Hogun, whichever, to be with his family.
Ending to 2nd was a bit confusing, I guess horseborn betrayed the caravan? And Serpent is with Bolverk for whatever reason. Bit too many cliffhangers.
also, fuck onef Did you kill Eyeless? I've gone through Banner Saga 2 twice now but didn't kill her either time. First time was because I just didn't want to, second was because I barely survived the first part of the battle with her and there was no way I would've been able to finish her off. Yeah I killed her, but it took me 2 or 3 tries.
Ekkill is one of my favorites too, glad I didn't kill him. hopefully he gets some time in Bs3.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 16:09:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 5:35:08 GMT
The release date for Banner Saga 3 got pushed forward to Summer 2018, so leading up to the launch they'll be putting out little mini trailers setting up the roles of certain characters for Banner Saga 3.
First one is for Fasolt, which I thought was a bit weird seeing as he's been a fairly minor character, and not one I found especially compelling in either Banner Saga 1 or 2, but I have to admit that the storyline this trailer sets up for him for Banner Saga 3 is pretty interesting, especially for me considering I sided with Rugga in my first main playthrough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 5:40:40 GMT
So since Stoic has confirmed in advance that at least Rook/Alette and Juno will be playable in Banner Saga 3, I added a poll about that. Personally, I'm more excited for the Rook/Alette storyline, mostly because I just don't have much investment in Juno as a character. I'm still really interested in how it will be like playing as Juno, but for now, I can't say I'm really looking forward to every other chapter being from her perspective. I also added Bolverk even though: I'm pretty sure he's a vessel for the Serpent/Bellower or something like that, and will in some way be one of the villains of Banner Saga 3. But who knows, we might get a one-off chapter as him or something Not quite an edit but I forgot until I started writing this post that Ubin is also playable so I'll go back and change the poll to add him real quick.
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Post by wakemeup on Jan 28, 2018 9:51:31 GMT
I'm a bit disapointed that Juno is the playable character, not Iver/Bolverk, never liked her much. I'm fine with Ubin being playable though. Only hope bolverk will be more than just a brainwashed villain whole game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 10:43:11 GMT
That's so fuckin lame. I don't want to play Juno. That's like playing Yoda. Her role thus far has been mysterious and somewhat unrelatable. I want to play as Ivar, a character that I understand, and am deeply invested in. God, everything that I hear about BS3 is making me worry. Ubin is a fighter now with his own campaign, despite being a fat and very very old man, you play as Juno instead of Ivar, and after the awfully boring small choices in BS2, and the insane branches of the big choices that seem untenable. I'm really worried about this.
I get that all of these things are little worries, but they're stacking up imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 14:02:32 GMT
That's so fuckin lame. I don't want to play Juno. That's like playing Yoda. Her role thus far has been mysterious and somewhat unrelatable. I want to play as Ivar, a character that I understand, and am deeply invested in. God, everything that I hear about BS3 is making me worry. Ubin is a fighter now with his own campaign, despite being a fat and very very old man, you play as Juno instead of Ivar, and after the awfully boring small choices in BS2, and the insane branches of the big choices that seem untenable. I'm really worried about this. I get that all of these things are little worries, but they're stacking up imo. Yeah, I'd much rather play as Iver, or hell, even Eyvind. Juno so far has just been so alienated from the rest of the cast that I really don't see how they're going to make her relatable. I mean, she was playable for short bursts in the last two, and in both of those moments we see her converse with a world-eating Serpent in the language of the dead Gods and.... that doesn't make for a relatable or compelling protagonist? I'm less worried about the Ubin thing because it gives more chances to explore Dalalond and the Horseborn, which I'm all about, I loved the Horseborn in Banner Saga 2, and it's been established that he was a great Varl warrior in his youth, so for me the most concerning thing about Ubin's storyline is that it was added as a kickstarter stretch goal, which gives me the impression it might be a bit tacked on. I also think they're way overestimating the investment we have in some of the smaller characters. The cast of characters is just way too big for me to care about everyone so the promise that Fasolt will lead the remaining Varl loyalists to Arberrang and in some way tip the balance of the Civil War there... okay, that's interesting, but does anyone give a shit about Fasolt? The guy you left to die in Eainortoft and then showed up for like the last two chapters of Banner Saga 2? Oh boy, if you sent Eirik back to Strand in Banner Saga 1 then you can meet him in Banner Saga 3 as the Governor of Strand.... I don't think anyone was dying to see Eirik again. And then there's the fact that Juno's chapters won't have a caravan, instead, you'll be seeing the remaining people and food in Arberrang while you're playing as Juno with no control over what's happening in Arberrang. On one level, that is a neat way of creating emotionally resonant mechanics, you feel Juno's helplessness to save the people of Arberrang not just through narrative but also through mechanics, but on another level it will be incredibly frustrating which is just not pleasant, and it means that half the chapters won't have any of the resource management that is kinda a central mechanics of the series? About the only thing I'm not worried about is the branching paths. Choices have an insane amount of consequence in Banner Saga 1, and while that's lessened for sure in Banner Saga 2, it still felt pretty good to me, and they followed through it some great ways even if a character here or there was underutilized. I do trust them to pull that together for the final game. But, yeah, I do share a lot of your concerns, especially seeing them focus a lot more on mechanics? Like, the first alpha battle I played was a new mode where you have to defend against waves of Varl, where after each wave you're given the choice to flee or keep fighting... okay, combat variety is great and all, but I'd rather hear more about the narrative, and so far what we've heard has been about Fasolt and Eirik and Juno and I just... don't care. Still trying to be optimistic, but yeah, little concerns are building to big ones. I guess we'll see soon enough either way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 14:05:15 GMT
lol even looking at the key art, does anyone care about Sparr, Ollie, and the stealth guy? Really? Those are the characters you chose to put in the key art. okay. I think there's a big disconnect over what characters Stoic cares about, and what characters the fans care about, and that's maybe my biggest concern.
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Post by wakemeup on Jan 28, 2018 15:43:13 GMT
That's so fuckin lame. I don't want to play Juno. That's like playing Yoda. Her role thus far has been mysterious and somewhat unrelatable. I want to play as Ivar, a character that I understand, and am deeply invested in. God, everything that I hear about BS3 is making me worry. Ubin is a fighter now with his own campaign, despite being a fat and very very old man, you play as Juno instead of Ivar, and after the awfully boring small choices in BS2, and the insane branches of the big choices that seem untenable. I'm really worried about this. I get that all of these things are little worries, but they're stacking up imo. Yeah, I'd much rather play as Iver, or hell, even Eyvind. Juno so far has just been so alienated from the rest of the cast that I really don't see how they're going to make her relatable. I mean, she was playable for short bursts in the last two, and in both of those moments we see her converse with a world-eating Serpent in the language of the dead Gods and.... that doesn't make for a relatable or compelling protagonist? I'm less worried about the Ubin thing because it gives more chances to explore Dalalond and the Horseborn, which I'm all about, I loved the Horseborn in Banner Saga 2, and it's been established that he was a great Varl warrior in his youth, so for me the most concerning thing about Ubin's storyline is that it was added as a kickstarter stretch goal, which gives me the impression it might be a bit tacked on. I also think they're way overestimating the investment we have in some of the smaller characters. The cast of characters is just way too big for me to care about everyone so the promise that Fasolt will lead the remaining Varl loyalists to Arberrang and in some way tip the balance of the Civil War there... okay, that's interesting, but does anyone give a shit about Fasolt? The guy you left to die in Eainortoft and then showed up for like the last two chapters of Banner Saga 2? Oh boy, if you sent Eirik back to Strand in Banner Saga 1 then you can meet him in Banner Saga 3 as the Governor of Strand.... I don't think anyone was dying to see Eirik again. And then there's the fact that Juno's chapters won't have a caravan, instead, you'll be seeing the remaining people and food in Arberrang while you're playing as Juno with no control over what's happening in Arberrang. On one level, that is a neat way of creating emotionally resonant mechanics, you feel Juno's helplessness to save the people of Arberrang not just through narrative but also through mechanics, but on another level it will be incredibly frustrating which is just not pleasant, and it means that half the chapters won't have any of the resource management that is kinda a central mechanics of the series?About the only thing I'm not worried about is the branching paths. Choices have an insane amount of consequence in Banner Saga 1, and while that's lessened for sure in Banner Saga 2, it still felt pretty good to me, and they followed through it some great ways even if a character here or there was underutilized. I do trust them to pull that together for the final game. But, yeah, I do share a lot of your concerns, especially seeing them focus a lot more on mechanics? Like, the first alpha battle I played was a new mode where you have to defend against waves of Varl, where after each wave you're given the choice to flee or keep fighting... okay, combat variety is great and all, but I'd rather hear more about the narrative, and so far what we've heard has been about Fasolt and Eirik and Juno and I just... don't care. Still trying to be optimistic, but yeah, little concerns are building to big ones. I guess we'll see soon enough either way. lol, that's pretty lame, is it confirmed she'll have every 2nd chapter? Maybe there will be just like 2 of them
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 15:49:02 GMT
Yeah, I'd much rather play as Iver, or hell, even Eyvind. Juno so far has just been so alienated from the rest of the cast that I really don't see how they're going to make her relatable. I mean, she was playable for short bursts in the last two, and in both of those moments we see her converse with a world-eating Serpent in the language of the dead Gods and.... that doesn't make for a relatable or compelling protagonist? I'm less worried about the Ubin thing because it gives more chances to explore Dalalond and the Horseborn, which I'm all about, I loved the Horseborn in Banner Saga 2, and it's been established that he was a great Varl warrior in his youth, so for me the most concerning thing about Ubin's storyline is that it was added as a kickstarter stretch goal, which gives me the impression it might be a bit tacked on. I also think they're way overestimating the investment we have in some of the smaller characters. The cast of characters is just way too big for me to care about everyone so the promise that Fasolt will lead the remaining Varl loyalists to Arberrang and in some way tip the balance of the Civil War there... okay, that's interesting, but does anyone give a shit about Fasolt? The guy you left to die in Eainortoft and then showed up for like the last two chapters of Banner Saga 2? Oh boy, if you sent Eirik back to Strand in Banner Saga 1 then you can meet him in Banner Saga 3 as the Governor of Strand.... I don't think anyone was dying to see Eirik again. And then there's the fact that Juno's chapters won't have a caravan, instead, you'll be seeing the remaining people and food in Arberrang while you're playing as Juno with no control over what's happening in Arberrang. On one level, that is a neat way of creating emotionally resonant mechanics, you feel Juno's helplessness to save the people of Arberrang not just through narrative but also through mechanics, but on another level it will be incredibly frustrating which is just not pleasant, and it means that half the chapters won't have any of the resource management that is kinda a central mechanics of the series?About the only thing I'm not worried about is the branching paths. Choices have an insane amount of consequence in Banner Saga 1, and while that's lessened for sure in Banner Saga 2, it still felt pretty good to me, and they followed through it some great ways even if a character here or there was underutilized. I do trust them to pull that together for the final game. But, yeah, I do share a lot of your concerns, especially seeing them focus a lot more on mechanics? Like, the first alpha battle I played was a new mode where you have to defend against waves of Varl, where after each wave you're given the choice to flee or keep fighting... okay, combat variety is great and all, but I'd rather hear more about the narrative, and so far what we've heard has been about Fasolt and Eirik and Juno and I just... don't care. Still trying to be optimistic, but yeah, little concerns are building to big ones. I guess we'll see soon enough either way. lol, that's pretty lame, is it confirmed she'll have every 2nd chapter? Maybe there will be just like 2 of them It's not confirmed she'll have every other chapter, but considering that's how they decided to divide up the story in Banner Saga 2, and how they were originally going to divide the story in Banner Saga 1 before they cut the second half of Hakon's chapters, I'd say it's a safe bet.
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