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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 19:33:11 GMT
Also gotta love this:
His own people fucking hated him. He had a horrible reputation. If there hadn't been so much build up, no one would've gone to war for his death.
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Post by Michael7123 on Jun 27, 2014 19:47:16 GMT
Also gotta love this: His own people fucking hated him. He had a horrible reputation. If there hadn't been so much build up, no one would've gone to war for his death. What was he hated for?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 19:48:11 GMT
He was just a poor leader.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jun 27, 2014 20:06:10 GMT
Also gotta love this: His own people fucking hated him. He had a horrible reputation. If there hadn't been so much build up, no one would've gone to war for his death. What was he hated for? He was hated for many reasons, some thought he was to friendly with the Serbians, others thought he was just a bad leader, hell some were even happy when he assassinated, yet they went over it anyway, irony.
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Post by Michael7123 on Jun 27, 2014 20:40:05 GMT
What I like about this game is that it is basically a historical novel, but as a videogame.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jun 27, 2014 20:46:35 GMT
It is, your right, come to think of it.
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Post by Michael7123 on Jun 27, 2014 20:53:08 GMT
If you liked this game there is a novel called Paris. I can't remeber the author, but it's a story about 6 different families who live in Paris who are interconnected over the course of hundreds of years.
I'll post it when I have the author's name.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 21:07:56 GMT
If you liked this game there is a novel called Paris. I can't remeber the author, but it's a story about 6 different families who live in Paris who are interconnected over the course of hundreds of years. I'll post it when I have the author's name. Edward ruthford.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jun 27, 2014 21:15:06 GMT
If you liked this game there is a novel called Paris. I can't remeber the author, but it's a story about 6 different families who live in Paris who are interconnected over the course of hundreds of years. I'll post it when I have the author's name. Sounds really good, and for the sake of the game, here is this sweet piece of music.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 2:33:49 GMT
So... I finished the game... I'm not really sure what to say, that was a beautiful story, and counts now as one of my favorite games and stories of all time. Though, I didn't cry like I did at the end of Transistor and The Walking Dead. I simply don't think it was as sad as Walking Dead, but it was definitely sadder than Transistor, just... it seemed more somber. Also, I wasn't expecting anyone to really die at the end of Transistor, I knew from the beginning that someone would die at the end of this, so I suppose that made a difference. At this point I suppose I'm going into spoiler territory. I actually wasn't expecting Emile to die. From the beginning, I had suspected that Freddie and Karl would, and definitely thought that Karl was dead after the whole gas thing. I really didn't think Emile would die up until the execution had started. And actually as I'm typing this, I am wiping away some tears(I JUST finished it), so I guess it does now count as the third thing ever to have made me cry. I'm not really sure what that last post credits bit meant... I'm not sure a "Valiant Hearts 2" is needed...
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Post by Rock114 on Jun 28, 2014 2:39:02 GMT
So... I finished the game... I'm not really sure what to say, that was a beautiful story, and counts now as one of my favorite games and stories of all time. Though, I didn't cry like I did at the end of Transistor and The Walking Dead. I simply don't think it was as sad as Walking Dead, but it was definitely sadder than Transistor, just... it seemed more somber. Also, I wasn't expecting anyone to really die at the end of Transistor, I knew from the beginning that someone would die at the end of this, so I suppose that made a difference. At this point I suppose I'm going into spoiler territory. I actually wasn't expecting Emile to die. From the beginning, I had suspected that Freddie and Karl would, and definitely thought that Karl was dead after the whole gas thing. I really didn't think Emile would die up until the execution had started. And actually as I'm typing this, I am wiping away some tears(I JUST finished it), so I guess it does now count as the third thing ever to have made me cry. I'm not really sure what that last post credits bit meant... I'm not sure a "Valiant Hearts 2" is needed... I don't think it's a sequel hook. It's more along the lines of hammering home that no matter what sacrifices the protagonists made, the war was still raging on and claiming lives. It's a reminder that war... war never changes. I actually suspected that it would be Emile to die from the start of the game, but Emile's execution still hit me like a brick tied to an anvil. After surviving three years of hell, he gets shot by his own side because he simply didn't want to die. It makes the whole thing seem so... futile. The entire war, even more than it already was. The only thing that got accomplished was that a lot of good people (not even just Emile) died to set the stage for another war twenty years later.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 2:47:21 GMT
Also, this reminded me quite a lot of "All Quiet on the Western Front", which was a book that followed a German soldier and his group of friends during WWI. Unlike Valiant Hearts however, the book wasn't any where near as sad, mainly because the death of each character was given a sentence or two, and only the death of one character was brought up after the fact. The main character dies at the end, but it's just a singular paragraph saying that he was found dead on the last day of fighting. I guess it was supposed to be sad because he'd survived right up until the last battle, but it wasn't given any focus at all, and was just very quick and brief. :/
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 2:48:37 GMT
So... I finished the game... I'm not really sure what to say, that was a beautiful story, and counts now as one of my favorite games and stories of all time. Though, I didn't cry like I did at the end of Transistor and The Walking Dead. I simply don't think it was as sad as Walking Dead, but it was definitely sadder than Transistor, just... it seemed more somber. Also, I wasn't expecting anyone to really die at the end of Transistor, I knew from the beginning that someone would die at the end of this, so I suppose that made a difference. At this point I suppose I'm going into spoiler territory. I actually wasn't expecting Emile to die. From the beginning, I had suspected that Freddie and Karl would, and definitely thought that Karl was dead after the whole gas thing. I really didn't think Emile would die up until the execution had started. And actually as I'm typing this, I am wiping away some tears(I JUST finished it), so I guess it does now count as the third thing ever to have made me cry. I'm not really sure what that last post credits bit meant... I'm not sure a "Valiant Hearts 2" is needed... I don't think it's a sequel hook. It's more along the lines of hammering home that no matter what sacrifices the protagonists made, the war was still raging on and claiming lives. It's a reminder that war... war never changes. I actually suspected that it would be Emile to die from the start of the game, but Emile's execution still hit me like a brick tied to an anvil. After surviving three years of hell, he gets shot by his own side because he simply didn't want to die. It makes the whole thing seem so... futile. The entire war, even more than it already was. The only thing that got accomplished was that a lot of good people (not even just Emile) died to set the stage for another war twenty years later. Yes, that seems much more likely, although I'd say that a sequel for this is at least more likely than a sequel for Child of Light, which also had a little bit that could possibly be a sequel hook after the credits.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jun 28, 2014 4:48:54 GMT
So... I finished the game... I'm not really sure what to say, that was a beautiful story, and counts now as one of my favorite games and stories of all time. Though, I didn't cry like I did at the end of Transistor and The Walking Dead. I simply don't think it was as sad as Walking Dead, but it was definitely sadder than Transistor, just... it seemed more somber. Also, I wasn't expecting anyone to really die at the end of Transistor, I knew from the beginning that someone would die at the end of this, so I suppose that made a difference. At this point I suppose I'm going into spoiler territory. I actually wasn't expecting Emile to die. From the beginning, I had suspected that Freddie and Karl would, and definitely thought that Karl was dead after the whole gas thing. I really didn't think Emile would die up until the execution had started. And actually as I'm typing this, I am wiping away some tears(I JUST finished it), so I guess it does now count as the third thing ever to have made me cry. I'm not really sure what that last post credits bit meant... I'm not sure a "Valiant Hearts 2" is needed... I don't think it's a sequel hook. It's more along the lines of hammering home that no matter what sacrifices the protagonists made, the war was still raging on and claiming lives. It's a reminder that war... war never changes. I actually suspected that it would be Emile to die from the start of the game, but Emile's execution still hit me like a brick tied to an anvil. After surviving three years of hell, he gets shot by his own side because he simply didn't want to die. It makes the whole thing seem so... futile. The entire war, even more than it already was. The only thing that got accomplished was that a lot of good people (not even just Emile) died to set the stage for another war twenty years later. I thought someone was going to die in the Somme or Verdun, to hammer in how futile it was, they did the futile part, but the way they did it was far worse and sad then I expected, bravo.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jun 28, 2014 4:50:14 GMT
Also, this reminded me quite a lot of "All Quiet on the Western Front", which was a book that followed a German soldier and his group of friends during WWI. Unlike Valiant Hearts however, the book wasn't any where near as sad, mainly because the death of each character was given a sentence or two, and only the death of one character was brought up after the fact. The main character dies at the end, but it's just a singular paragraph saying that he was found dead on the last day of fighting. I guess it was supposed to be sad because he'd survived right up until the last battle, but it wasn't given any focus at all, and was just very quick and brief. :/ Actually its more like the Stanley Kubrick movie Paths of Glory, which dealt directly with what happens, and ends roughly the same way, good shoutout to AQWF, fantastic read and you are somewhat right, my teacher gave it to me because I was interested in WW1, no regrets.
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