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Post by IDEK on Mar 15, 2021 9:46:49 GMT
"Uh... in a way, none of it's canon though, so there's no need to think too much about it." Fawn said. "Doing that just makes things really complicated."
"Well, while you're here, Miss Smith. Is there anything you wish to talk to us about?" Uriel leaned in, Proserpina looked over at him.
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Post by Master Psychic on Mar 15, 2021 10:08:30 GMT
Arielle shrugged.
"I was merely curious about the link and where it would bring me but I guess have some time for some chit chat since I have no royal duties at the moment. If you have any questions, ask me." Arielle smiled.
"...Since when did you start watching that Library of Saga's show? Did you see all the events like back in our days?" Angel asked.
"I started watching it sometime when Verita was travelling from dimension from dimension when I was little...oddly enough, I never did notice that she closed off our planet's core but I know about the events with the Graduates, the tournaments and the guardian stories from the other universes and all the way to the current events, that way I'm able to keep myself updated on what's going on at the moment. Watching the current stories and events from 13 made me interested since I know less about that dimension than the others, I had a feeling that Messorem wasn't gonna turn out to be a bad guy like everyone else thought he was, it would of been way too simple if that was case...that said, I am disappointed with what happened with Roka and Alen, especially the former when I figured that Soulless World's trials would be the perfect opportunity for him to shine but he died without doing something interesting or have some interactions with the others and in my humble opinion, I believe the group from 13 would be better off without Sophia, all she's been doing is unsubtly trying to turn everyone against Owen and Kalfu and manipulate them to turn against the God of Endings, with the unnecessary turmoil she is causing in the team dynamic she is putting every living being's lives at stake because she wants to be the centre of attention. I won't be surprised if she will cause the death of herself and her siblings because of her ego which would put the entire group at a disadvantage when they will have to fight that giant killer monster that wants to destroy all of us." Arielle frowned.
"That's what worries me." Calypso muttered quietly.
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Post by IDEK on Mar 15, 2021 11:42:11 GMT
Sophia looked over at Calypso. "Oh, don't worry. I'm not suicidal, I've got no intention of doing anything that'll get us killed."
"Sure you don't." Owen didn't seem to believe her.
Samantha glared at Arielle, it didn't look like she knew what she wanted to say.
"So, this shows been going on since I was active?... That's..." Veradis looked down at the ground.
"...You didn't notice your negative emotions vanishing?" Erinye asked. "I suppose if you were young, and had a happy childhood, that wouldn't be too surprising. But I'd expect that to be something someone would notice."
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Post by Master Psychic on Mar 15, 2021 12:07:06 GMT
Arielle placed her hand on her chin, thinking about this.
"...I suppose because nothing urgent was happening around that time and the crusade din't make a spectacle of themselves like in the other worlds is probably why we din't seem to notice something strange going on." Arielle shrugged.
"I did feel slightly odd after Verita left. It did feel like I was more happier than ever but without any reason why." Yang said.
"It's thanks to that my element stopped working for atleast an year or so before the seals' were undone." Yin muttered.
"As a little girl, I enjoyed watching these stories and watching the conflict between light and darkness, good and evil and all these grand adventures each of you guys had. Although, I was more interested in the romance side of things than the power blasting and fistfighting, that started to become old and repetitive." Arielle smiled.
At that moment, her smile vanished, replaced by a sad frown.
"...However, as I grew older, it made me think deeply about everything that has happened in this giant collective of dimensions and planets. No matter how many victories the 'heroes' achieved over the villains, new ones just appear out of thin air and recent conflicts has been escalating dangereously starting with Ragnarok and that erasure wave, with the revolution in 1 and the Semi-Epilogue, the emperor's brother from 12 trying to turn everyone dumber, the hunt for those orbs that nearly caused the end of the world again, the Grinning Ghoul and now we have a giant Leviathan that wants to erase us all for some reason. It's really concerning, with all these disasters happening left and right, how is the alliance going to unite the remaining factions if these roadblocks keep preventing us from functioning as a society if we are stuck in this loop of struggle between black and white?" Arielle asked, folding her arms with her head leaning against her shoulder.
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Post by IDEK on Mar 15, 2021 12:22:11 GMT
"...Hmm, I wonder." Daia, who had been silent until now, mumbled something to herself, staring down at her tablet.
Byzantine looked to his daughter, then to Arielle, who he nodded at. "You're far from the only one asking those questions, young lady."
"It's true that it's always been the case and that things are happening faster and faster." Miyama nodded. "Even without F scheduling villains to throw themselves at heroes left and right, it seems like everyone's deciding to move one after another regardless. From my own observations, most of them have believed they were acting in the multiverses favour. Believing that their own will and action would be far more efficient than that of everyone co-operating of their own will." She cast her pink eyes directly onto Arielle. "Perhaps it's that way of thinking that's got us stuck in this loop that puzzles you so much."
"Feels like I'm trapped in a shonen anime." Joseph rolled his eyes.
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Post by Master Psychic on Mar 15, 2021 12:42:24 GMT
Arielle seemed to consider what Miyama was saying.
"Well, yeah, but still, why do these things just have to happen? Why can't these separate groups find a way to talk things out instead of trying to kill each other on the spot?" Arielle asked.
"Well, according to dad, grandpa...and the Unigard, the reason we have good versus evil fights is because-" Athena started.
"It's because we need good and evil to fight each other so there can be perfect balance in the multiverse or otherwise, everything will be in chaos, right?" Arielle asked, cutting off Athena before she could finish her sentence.
"...Yeah, how did you know?" Athena asked, raising her eyebrow.
"Oh, I'm psychic too and I was able to read your thoughts before you had the chance to finish what you wanted to say." Arielle smiled, pointing at her forehead.
"...Seriously?" Athena asked, dumbfounded.
"No, I was just messing with you, I know what you were about to say it's because I heard those lines quite a few times by now after watching all these stories, I'm aware of the formula...but I find it weird that we need good people and bad people to punch each other in order for our worlds not to go topsy turvy and balance things out. Like you said, F basically abused that balance so she can put her plans into action which goes to show how flawed it is. Do we have any evidence of something like that happening before? Like the worlds going crazy because we don't have heroes and villains at each other's throats? Who made up these rules anyway?" Arielle asked.
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Post by IDEK on Mar 15, 2021 16:00:21 GMT
Sophia looked at the person reading this.
"Well, there's..." Minami paused, she put a hand to her mouth, thinking. "I think you're misunderstanding this somewhat."
"How so?" Uriel asked her.
"... Well, I don't think we need heroes or villains to throw themselves at each other necessarily. Just, that it's something that happens because of how we were all designed." Minami tried to explain, "Like, it's not just sentient creatures that get greedy. If a animal tries to eat a baby animal, the mother is going to fight back, isn't she? If that situation played out with humans, they'd call the mother a hero, wouldn't they?"
Kita leaned into her own hand.
"So you're saying its less because of rules or because of a balance, but it's simply that we are predisposed to fight each other while protecting the things we care about?" Uriel asked. "That 'hero' and 'villain' are just words we use to give instinctual behaviour more meaning?"
"Sounds a bit reductionist to me." Moriah commented, scratching at her nose. She didn't look to be paying too much attention.
"I agree." Uriel nodded, "I don't think it's anything as base as that. But I do agree that using the formula to justify itself isn't the way to go about it, it makes more sense to look at why this is happening. I'd say Arielle is right, it'd be far better if we could all talk our issues out and come to a agreement that benefits everybody rather than continue with endless conflict."
"You would." Moriah shoved her finger into her nose.
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Post by Master Psychic on Mar 15, 2021 16:54:34 GMT
"Well, even these two simple terms don't even look accurate either. There are quite various people who don't even fit these terms when you think about it." Arielle pointed out.
"...What do you mean by that?" Arashi asked.
"Majority of the villains, putting the really true horrible ones aside, aren't really villainous much less they're misguided people who have been dealt dirty by fate and wanted to change the world in their ways even if they seemed pure wrong to everyone. Think about it, the Cromwells and the Space Pirates happened as a result of the failures of the Neonytian Empire's system that was created by their conquering ancestors which lead to a series of tragedies in universe 5, the Red Moon was created as a result of Erebus's actions and din't know how to tell the difference between the rest of the demons and him, Verita and the people involved in her group were manipulated by Lea-Maria who carried out F's plans which included everyone involved in the black market, that Morpher lost his planet because Sheldon couldn't stop Argus from his destructive path, Proserpina made Semi-Epilogue because of the conflict in the universe she was born in, Morishima's paranoia got the best of him and his family made the wrong call by exiling him to a isolated island which made things worse and the Kheogs paid the price, Aku wouldn't of suffered a horrible fate if the guardians from 2 weren't hungry for revenge and killed his family which resulted in him being sent to 6 and we have Hastur, who was hated by the town people who feared his power and him losing his friends to that scientist he became a dictator, if the citizens of his town din't turn him and his friends into outcasts, they would of never been hunted down by the scientist and his monsters, right?" Arielle asked.
"That's...that's true." Reginald sighed.
"And as for heroes, there are quite some who are on the heroic side but they aren't traditional heroes and have been quite antagonistic themselves. We have people like Kain, Kita, Solum, Melnnos, Lara, Uriel, no offense and a few others who were with the good guys but made some very questionable choices that don't appear to be heroic and a few of them actually killed people before and din't answer for their actions. Even if the Cromwells are working with Slyfer and the rest of the group, I don't think calling them heroes would be correct because of their past and don't seem to have interest in being heroic and are doing this so they can survive destruction and the same goes for the red-haired family who are with them.
And not to mention all the questionable acts performed by some other heroes too: Omalley accidently killed a Neonyte when trying to kill another when instead he should of let them deal with their own problems and focus more on Hastur, his own son brainwashed one of his students into loving someone instead of letting him learn that lesson naturally instead of forcing him to learn that and his students took the lives of other people aswell even if it was self-defense, even before fusing into Verita, Veradis sealing Lynne away into another creature was too cruel and it was a miracle that she did not lose all of her sanity or else the Royal Guard would of never been able to convince her, everyone sort of forgot Minami kidnapping Eric and she was about to do something horrible if Kita wasn't returned to her and she was close to murdering the Omnipotents from 3 if that boy wasn't there, Hercule and Dietz should of been punished for their past involvement with the old Royal Guard, Theseus acted like a big jerk just because he wasn't able to get the pleasure of killing Cupid and almost made a bad impression in the eyes of the Aquamarines, Miyama has the power to prevent the Omnipotents from her universe from taking over the world but for some reason she let it all happen, there is the whole thing with Fawn and I don't really agree with young kids being thrown into the roles of heroes and forced to fight dangerous people that nearly killed them quite a few times and being exposed to so much awful stuff." Arielle frowned.
"Well, there is a saying my pappy used to say before his ass was sealed into a shadow dimension: hypocrisy makes the world go round." Erebus said.
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Post by IDEK on Mar 15, 2021 17:29:07 GMT
Miyama frowned. "...I'm not going to say you're wrong, but you don't know enough about my situation to make that claim about me 'having the power to prevent them'."
"Hey!" Eric called out, looking at Minami like he did only just remember that she kidnapped him. "You did kidnap me, didn't you? Just because I was asleep the whole time doesn't mean that wasn't fucked up!"
"...Well, I've never counted myself as a hero." Minami said, somewhat sheepishly. "I was just, uh, y'know, trying to offer some insight into those terms. In my own earlier example, the mother may fight to protect her child- but whether she's a nice person outside of that isn't even mentioned, is it? She could be the kind of person to harass retail workers or spread false rumours at her workplace."
"...Also, Lara and Melnnos did those things while they were considered villains, right?" Diana asked, tilting her head to the side. She then tilted it to the other side, her expression was goofy but the table around her was getting covered in dust and she sounded quite mad. "And, about those villains- I'm sure the Kheog's have a lot to say about Morishima's various acts against them. The Cromwells and Space Pirates weren't the only ones to suffer as a result of the empire, everyone they- I mean we were oppressing, and the soldiers within the empire itself were suffering as well, yet they didn't do the things those two groups did. Listing off their tragic backstories doesn't make the fact that the Red Moon and the Cromwells both intended to wipe out entire species, nor does Aku's past change the atrocities he committed, so please don't go acting like they were misguided or only the way they were because of their past, quite a lot of the 'good guys' were dealt shit hands in life as well, no?"
"So, this just means that the hero villain thing is bullshit that doesn't mean anything." Samantha rolled her eyes. "Listing Verita as a villain but Veradis as a hero when they're the same person? It's not like it even means anything, I just don't want my family to be destroyed- do I have to be a angel to want that!? Why do you even care anyway!?"
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Post by Master Psychic on Mar 15, 2021 18:11:22 GMT
Arielle stared at Diana and Samantha, she looked quite bothered. For some reason, whoever was touching the table it felt a bit hot at the moment. "...I only said they were misguided, I din't say I agree with them. It's only that those situations could of been prevented if a few more people were a lot more careful is what I'm saying. From my point of view, both sides are flawed and I can't help but side with neither of them." Arielle said, her green eyes were slowly losing their colour and gleam aswell. Arielle then closed her eyes. "And I care because I don't want to things to get much worse because of someone else's mistakes. If neither side is willing to understand stand each other and continue fighting one another till infinity because that's how things are supposed to be, are we supposed to accept that? Even if the giant monster from 13 and whoever else comes before it are defeated, who is to say it will end at that and something much worse may appear on the horizon and it may be too late by then." Arielle stated. She then opened her eyes, the colour of her sparkly eyes was consumed by grey and her smile grew side: " How about a alternative? Wouldn't it be nice if there was a way for all sides to reach a common understanding without being pushed into the typical scenario of Good Vs Evil or Light Vs Darkness, a way that would ensure less deaths, misery and destruction of property and planets? I'm not suggesting a world in which crime, sadness and anger doesn't exist, but perhaps one in which we don't have be threatened daily by monsters, interdimensional beings or anything else like that? Wouldn't that be a preferable option?" Arielle asked, even the screen was becoming slightly brighter than usual. Her voice seemed to reach every person in the room and her words sounded pleasant to them, full of optimism and hope, it's as if she was sharing a piece of her mind with them, intentionally or unintentionally. "...Well, that does sound...like a welcome alternative when you say it like that." Cynthia nodded. "I sort of agree...but..." Jaden paused, placing a hand on his forehead. Rin placed her fingers on her temples, feeling as if someone else's logic was trying to enter in her brain and trying to deny it's access into it. Izanami just raised an eyebrow at this as she removed her hands from the slightly hot table before placing her hand on her head, feeling a little headache at best. Futakuchi took note of their reactions and looked at everyone else.
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Post by IDEK on Mar 15, 2021 18:22:01 GMT
Sophia's eyes went wide and she fell out of her chair,
"Sophia?" Micah asked, he looked confused but that was pretty normal.
Uriel smiled rather unsubtly, Minami's expression grew concerned.
Miyama coughed slightly, "You say that like it's not what most of us with any sense intend on doing. Common understanding and erasure of threats like that is the entire reason we formed this alliance."
"You got a plan on how to make that happen then?" Kain asked Arielle.
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Post by Master Psychic on Mar 15, 2021 18:51:07 GMT
"Oh, I have a few ideas. You see, a few ex-F workers from my universe are taking refuge in Camelot and told me about a old gauntlet that belonged to Jarilo, one that their admin tried to locate but was never able to find it. I figured that it may be worth the trouble to find it before it falls in the wrong hands and in case things turn for the worse, we will atleast have that and perhaps change a few rules while we are at it too." Arielle smiled.
"...Shit." Huang mumbled to himself.
"Don't worry, I'm not planning to keep it forever. Once I finish what I have in mind, I'll have the gauntlet destroyed to make sure no one else will get their hands on it and use it ever again. Of course, I'll only use it if it's necessary. But it doesn't change the fact that we live in a world that keeps growing and growing, perspectives, ideas, old ways and traditions change all the time and we are heading into a new age. Even these outdated cosmic rules have to adjust to these changes as the world keeps turning, turning, turning, turning...." Arielle said as the screen and TV slowly did a vertical rotation and now Arielle was upside down.
"And turning, turning...hey, why are you all upside down?" Arielle asked, tilting her head in confusion.
Suddenly, the entire room was upside down, everyone was hanging from the floor which was now ceiling but din't fall from their chairs and neither did the table and the ceiling was now the floor.
"What the!?" Jordan asked, blinking rapidly.
"And from a shonen anime, we ended up in a episode of the Twilight Zone." Virgil sighed.
"Uh, Dilon, did you mess around with the physics to make her speech more dramatic?" Emylln asked, looking slightly nervous.
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Post by IDEK on Mar 15, 2021 19:49:56 GMT
"Ahaha, nope, not a bit! I can't do anything like this!" Dilon laughed, "She's doing all this herself, quite a tricksy one, isn't she?"
"Glad you're having fun..." Mont sighed.
"Either she's fucking with us, or she hasn't even noticed she did this." Kain muttered. "No clue which is worse."
"Oh, maybe if she says 'turning' 6 more times we'll be the right way round again?" Sophia suggested.
Pollux blinked, "Weird, none of us noticed the room was upside down until you said that, Arielle."
"We're getting distracted by the glamour and glitz, what she's saying is more important than what axis we're standing on. You!, Arielle, this just the elevator pitch or do you have more for us, because I'm interested." Ronnie shot her a finger gun, crossing his legs on the table. He did not seem to care about the current situation.
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Post by Master Psychic on Mar 15, 2021 20:15:51 GMT
"Whatever it's going on, it all seems related to whenever her eyes turn grey." Izanami said, giving Arielle a stern expression.
Ariell had a look of genuine confusion on her face.
"...My eyes...turned grey?" Arielle asked, as the colour of her eyes turned green once again.
Suddenly, the entire room was no longer upside and whatever side effects that occurred when Arielle spoke vanished aswell.
"...Okay, this was definitely weird, I won't lie." Arielle admitted.
"Arielle, do you have any sort of abilities or gift of you're own, that might explain whatever...that was?" Jess asked.
"Hm...I don't think so, but I'm a gifted speaker. I think it's something like charisma, I have a way with words and know how to get their attention and listen to what I have to say. We had this problem in Camelot, with the residents being discriminatory against those with powers and I held a grand speech, telling them that we are better than that and that all of us are similar and we shouldn't glorify hate speech and treat people with disdain or indifference even if they may be demons or aliens from another world. All of them listened to me and people became more open minded as a result, even as daughter of a Smith, I din't think it would be that easy." Arielle said.
"It's true. She did a better job at appeassing the masses than I ever could, she even talked down criminals and had them see the error of their ways." Arthur nodded.
"It's kind of scary when you think about it!" Arielle smiled.
"That sounds...quite familiar actually." Caroline said, looking at Locrian.
"A bit of a shame that my mom isn't with us at the moment. I bet she would of been so proud to see me deliver that speech." Arielle frowned, looking sad.
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Post by IDEK on Mar 15, 2021 20:27:45 GMT
"...That's amazing." Daia commented.
"And it happens whenever you start speaking in grey? Neat." Ronnie clicked his tongue.
"Come to think of it, both Locrian and Arielle have green eyes." Mont commented, having noticed Caroline looking at him.
"...This is... not what I expected." Locrian himself looked somewhat uncomfortable, Bonita placed a hand on his shoulder. "Ah, I'm fine." He told her, before looking to Arielle on the screen. "So, you said your mother isn't with you 'at the moment'?"
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