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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Mar 12, 2014 21:24:31 GMT
That is true, but is he insane? People say he will kill Rebecca and the baby if they are not his own? I think I'm the only person who's said that XD I mean on the old forums people are saying that a lot, I just don't see it.
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Post by Michael7123 on Mar 12, 2014 21:34:11 GMT
I think I'm the only person who's said that XD I mean on the old forums people are saying that a lot, I just don't see it. Same here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 21:40:16 GMT
That is true, but is he insane? People say he will kill Rebecca and the baby if they are not his own? I think I'm the only person who's said that XD We know Carver's a ruthless monster from what we've seen of his actions so far, so I suspect he would go far enough to kill a newborn baby just because it's not his.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Mar 12, 2014 21:41:29 GMT
I mean on the old forums people are saying that a lot, I just don't see it. Same here. Yeah I don't see it, he said it himself, I was not planing on killing these people, but plans change, I got a feeling people will die, but not because he wants them to die, he said, "Knowing full well, those who choose not to accept our love, will surely wish they had." To me, that means if they don't try anything, everyone lives, but that ain't going to happen, they are going to rebel, and people will die.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Mar 12, 2014 21:52:40 GMT
Well, Carver's grand plan was to get back what he thought was his child and its mother. You don't think that Rebecca carrying another man's baby would be seen by Carver as enough justification for him to kill them both? He would maybe spare Rebecca, but do you honestly think that Carver is the kind of guy who would let any of his resources go towards raising the child of a guy he hates?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 21:56:00 GMT
Well, Carver's grand plan was to get back what he thought was his child and its mother. You don't think that Rebecca carrying another man's baby would be seen by Carver as enough justification for him to kill them both? He would maybe spare Rebecca, but do you honestly think that Carver is the kind of guy who would let any of his resources go towards raising the child of a guy he hates? I think his grand plan was not only to get Rebecca back, but the others as well. Otherwise he would've kidnapped Rebecca and left the others behind. I think he has some sort of complex where he gets a boost every time he 'liberates' people and brings them to his camp.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Mar 12, 2014 22:02:01 GMT
Well, it just makes practical sense for him to take everyone back to his camp. They're essentially just free labor. I say that getting Rebecca back was his grand plan it's his main goal. If it came down to it, I don't think he would have had a problem killing any of the other hostages aside from Rebecca, and maybe Carlos and Sarah (as a bargaining chip to keep Carlos in line).
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Post by Michael7123 on Mar 12, 2014 22:05:43 GMT
Well, Carver's grand plan was to get back what he thought was his child and its mother. You don't think that Rebecca carrying another man's baby would be seen by Carver as enough justification for him to kill them both? He would maybe spare Rebecca, but do you honestly think that Carver is the kind of guy who would let any of his resources go towards raising the child of a guy he hates? If he hate's Alvin so badly, why didn't he just kill him immediately? And Carver knows that if he kill's Alvin's child, Alvin would probably be willing to die in an effort to kill Carver.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Mar 12, 2014 22:17:55 GMT
Again, free labor and keeping Rebecca in line. But remember that Alvin is the second person Carver grabs after Walt and he'll kill him without hesitation if Kenny keeps shooting. Why not grab Nick or Sarita, who would clearly mean more to the people he assumes are shooting at him (Luke and/or Kenny)? The only reason I can think of why he would do that is because "fuck Alvin."
Even if he doesn't hate him that much right now, if Carver finds out that Alvin fathered Rebecca's child, he would surely kill him for that. Heck , he'd probably kill the baby in front of Alvin and then kill Alvin in front of Rebecca.
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Post by Rock114 on Mar 12, 2014 22:30:15 GMT
I'd kill Carlos. He wouldn't even want to take the chance of Sarah being harmed.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Mar 12, 2014 22:33:43 GMT
I'd kill Carlos. He wouldn't even want to take the chance of Sarah being harmed. It was hard enough watching him get tortured in episode 2, this would break me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 23:43:58 GMT
Carlos would much prefer he dies rather than his daughter, so I'd do as he says, unfortunately. Then, next chance I get, I fucking murder Carver.
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Post by Michael7123 on Mar 12, 2014 23:45:22 GMT
Carlos would much prefer he dies rather than his daughter, so I'd do as he says, unfortunately. Then, next chance I get, I fucking murder Carver. Aren't all of us planning to do that anyways? Or at least get someone to do it, if not Clem herself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 23:46:48 GMT
Not necessarily. If I like him enough, I may be merciful, and quick. But forcing me to do that, heh, I'll force him to cut open his own liver.
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Post by Michael7123 on Mar 12, 2014 23:54:54 GMT
Also, this came up while I was role playing carver. I would imagine him doing this only if Clementine, Luke, and Kenny caused the death of a whole bunch of his people. Carver is 'I'
I lock Clementine in a room with Luke and Kenny strapped to chairs. I give her a gun with one bullet. I tell her if she kills one of them, the survivor and her are free to go. I wait outside the room until I hear a gunshot. I walk in, shoot the survivor in the chest. I untie either Luke or Kenny (or both if Clem didn't shoot for the head), and lock them in the room with her. I sit outside and wait to hear Clem's screams as she is eaten by the people she cares about.
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