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Post by Rock114 on May 15, 2014 3:11:06 GMT
Mike, you fucked up the spoiler tags. Fix it quick, before someone sees it.
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Post by Michael7123 on May 15, 2014 3:21:22 GMT
Thanks.
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Post by sos on May 15, 2014 3:32:45 GMT
Thoughts on how Nick was handled in In Harm's Way: All but confirmed to be a throwaway character.
It wasn't even just his lack of screen time. It's how they presented him during it. He's a pawn. Take the scene where Kenny instructs you to look for weaknesses in the area. Everyone else is huddled around the campfire. Nick is the lone guy (besides Jane and Mike) that is simply trying to rest. He's resigning to the fact that, hey, there's nothing he can do in this situation. Then near the end when the group is plotting their grand escape plans... Kenny's attempted to step up and lead. Luke is trying to lead. Even Rebecca, to some degree, is highly opinionated. Nick sits back and attaches himself to everything that Luke suggests. Never really adds anything substantial. This episode said too clearly that Nick isn't important. Hugely disappointing given the large role he played in House Divided and what we've come to learn of him as a character. I get that not every character can be the focal point of the game, but it seems like a wasted opportunity. For example, I'm more invested in Nick than I am in Luke. Or Rebecca. Or Bonnie. Probably on par with Kenny. He's easily in the top 3 most interesting characters. Damn shame.
Telltale probably just figured they couldn't off him for good in this episode because it was Alvin's swan song moment. They didn't want one's death to overshadow another's and didn't want to think that both determinant characters WERE just throwaways.
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Post by Rock114 on May 15, 2014 3:40:31 GMT
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on May 15, 2014 4:12:26 GMT
Thoughts on how Nick was handled in In Harm's Way: All but confirmed to be a throwaway character.
It wasn't even just his lack of screen time. It's how they presented him during it. He's a pawn. Take the scene where Kenny instructs you to look for weaknesses in the area. Everyone else is huddled around the campfire. Nick is the lone guy (besides Jane and Mike) that is simply trying to rest. He's resigning to the fact that, hey, there's nothing he can do in this situation. Then near the end when the group is plotting their grand escape plans... Kenny's attempted to step up and lead. Luke is trying to lead. Even Rebecca, to some degree, is highly opinionated. Nick sits back and attaches himself to everything that Luke suggests. Never really adds anything substantial. This episode said too clearly that Nick isn't important. Hugely disappointing given the large role he played in House Divided and what we've come to learn of him as a character. I get that not every character can be the focal point of the game, but it seems like a wasted opportunity. For example, I'm more invested in Nick than I am in Luke. Or Rebecca. Or Bonnie. Probably on par with Kenny. He's easily in the top 3 most interesting characters. Damn shame.
Telltale probably just figured they couldn't off him for good in this episode because it was Alvin's swan song moment. They didn't want one's death to overshadow another's and didn't want to think that both determinant characters WERE just throwaways. I hope that's just due to his depression (he has all the signs of a person dealing with it) and him being "not built" like the others. I have a gut feeling you're right, though.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on May 15, 2014 14:31:33 GMT
Thoughts on how Nick was handled in In Harm's Way: All but confirmed to be a throwaway character.
It wasn't even just his lack of screen time. It's how they presented him during it. He's a pawn. Take the scene where Kenny instructs you to look for weaknesses in the area. Everyone else is huddled around the campfire. Nick is the lone guy (besides Jane and Mike) that is simply trying to rest. He's resigning to the fact that, hey, there's nothing he can do in this situation. Then near the end when the group is plotting their grand escape plans... Kenny's attempted to step up and lead. Luke is trying to lead. Even Rebecca, to some degree, is highly opinionated. Nick sits back and attaches himself to everything that Luke suggests. Never really adds anything substantial. This episode said too clearly that Nick isn't important. Hugely disappointing given the large role he played in House Divided and what we've come to learn of him as a character. I get that not every character can be the focal point of the game, but it seems like a wasted opportunity. For example, I'm more invested in Nick than I am in Luke. Or Rebecca. Or Bonnie. Probably on par with Kenny. He's easily in the top 3 most interesting characters. Damn shame.
Telltale probably just figured they couldn't off him for good in this episode because it was Alvin's swan song moment. They didn't want one's death to overshadow another's and didn't want to think that both determinant characters WERE just throwaways. Maybe, I am sure there will be more of him next episode, there are less people now right?
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on May 15, 2014 19:28:06 GMT
Maybe, maybe not, I don't know.
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Post by sos on May 15, 2014 19:41:13 GMT
Nick had so few lines in In Harm's Way that Brian Bremer probably forgot how he sounded.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on May 15, 2014 19:46:23 GMT
Maybe, maybe not.
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on May 15, 2014 21:08:54 GMT
Okay, I know I already mentioned it but this Nick voice thing is bugging the crap out of me. Seriously nobody else noticed anything? Video comparison: Episode two Episode three It's subtle, but there's just something... different about Nick's voice. It sounds heftier, and ...I don't know. It has more of a southern tilt to it, I guess. I don't know. Eh. My accent and tone changes all the time, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 22:11:06 GMT
The greatest Nick moment for me was his Carlos impression, that was brilliant.
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on May 15, 2014 22:13:45 GMT
Kind of noticed his voice deepened, but I didn't pay attention to the accent.
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Post by Rock114 on May 15, 2014 22:32:24 GMT
Kind of noticed his voice deepened, but I didn't pay attention to the accent. That's about the only thing I noticed as well. If only Nick had had more lines in Episode 3 so that we could compare them. I didn't hear any change in accent myself.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 22:48:57 GMT
Nick's voice tends to deepen depending on his mood. If he's more laid back his voice is deeper (like the second video), and if he's more anxious it's higher (like the first video).
His voice is also deep when he talks about having to kill his mum.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on May 15, 2014 22:58:03 GMT
Yeah, it was.
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