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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Feb 5, 2014 22:01:42 GMT
No, and noooooooooooo, personality is the only thing, and it's more like Larry, trust me I should know. good: you're not blinded by rage for a bitch. No, the rage is blinding, but when I get to that point you need to know everything about your enemy in order to fully hate them, and by the amount of hate, I know Lilly better then Lilly.
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Post by Teacakes on Feb 5, 2014 22:02:02 GMT
Don't bullshit me.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Feb 5, 2014 22:14:03 GMT
I am not bullshitting you, why would I?
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Post by Teacakes on Feb 5, 2014 22:25:49 GMT
You just said, bullshit.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Feb 5, 2014 22:27:43 GMT
Okay now your just confusing me, wonderful.
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Post by Rock114 on Feb 6, 2014 0:07:09 GMT
It's mother is an asshole, the word demon is saved for Lilly only. Rebecca is a bitch for ever second of screentime she has. Lilly is a bitch for 85% of her screentime, at most. Therefore, Rebecca is worse.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Feb 6, 2014 0:10:17 GMT
It's mother is an asshole, the word demon is saved for Lilly only. Rebecca is a bitch for ever second of screentime she has. Lilly is a bitch for 85% of her screentime, at most. Therefore, Rebecca is worse. But, she was only in a few scenes in episode 1, I mean did I hate Lilly in episode 1? No, it took time to figure her out.
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Post by Rock114 on Feb 6, 2014 0:16:02 GMT
Rebecca is a bitch for ever second of screentime she has. Lilly is a bitch for 85% of her screentime, at most. Therefore, Rebecca is worse. But, she was only in a few scenes in episode 1, I mean did I hate Lilly in episode 1? No, it took time to figure her out. Going by just Episode 1 of each Season, then Lilly is FAR better than Rebecca. We actually HAVE evidence that Lilly wasn't ALL THAT BAD. We can't say the same for Rebecca.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Feb 6, 2014 0:20:48 GMT
But, she was only in a few scenes in episode 1, I mean did I hate Lilly in episode 1? No, it took time to figure her out. Going by just Episode 1 of each Season, then Lilly is FAR better than Rebecca. We actually HAVE evidence that Lilly wasn't ALL THAT BAD. We can't say the same for Rebecca. I am going on what I think, we don't know much about Rebecca, hell she could have been raped or something, who knows? There are a lot of question marks on her, comparing the first meetings with Lilly and Rebecca, Lilly was better, but she got worse over time, Rebecca as I said, is a black book that was a bitch for two or three scenes, we need more information before we can condemn her.
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Post by Rock114 on Feb 6, 2014 0:25:18 GMT
Going by just Episode 1 of each Season, then Lilly is FAR better than Rebecca. We actually HAVE evidence that Lilly wasn't ALL THAT BAD. We can't say the same for Rebecca. I am going on what I think, we don't know much about Rebecca, hell she could have been raped or something, who knows? There are a lot of question marks on her, comparing the first meetings with Lilly and Rebecca, Lilly was better, but she got worse over time, Rebecca as I said, is a black book that was a bitch for two or three scenes, we need more information before we can condemn her. That sounds oddly tolerant of you. What have you done with the real Bio?
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Feb 6, 2014 0:36:48 GMT
I am going on what I think, we don't know much about Rebecca, hell she could have been raped or something, who knows? There are a lot of question marks on her, comparing the first meetings with Lilly and Rebecca, Lilly was better, but she got worse over time, Rebecca as I said, is a black book that was a bitch for two or three scenes, we need more information before we can condemn her. That sounds oddly tolerant of you. What have you done with the real Bio? I am really a tolerant person, I did not hate the Saint Johns, I did not hate Vernon, and I sympathized with the Stranger, it's just Lilly was my tipping point, point is all we know is she is a pregnant woman who does not like a 11 year old girl, there is likely a reason, I mean I hated Nick for being an asshole but I forgave him because he had a valid reason, that and being pregnant in the world of the walkers is a very, very bad thing, punishment enough knowing it will likely kill her without proper help, and the baby itself is a problem.
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Post by Rock114 on Feb 6, 2014 0:41:48 GMT
That sounds oddly tolerant of you. What have you done with the real Bio? I am really a tolerant person, I did not hate the Saint Johns, I did not hate Vernon, and I sympathized with the Stranger, it's just Lilly was my tipping point, point is all we know is she is a pregnant woman who does not like a 11 year old girl, there is likely a reason, I mean I hated Nick for being an asshole but I forgave him because he had a valid reason, that and being pregnant in the world of the walkers is a very, very bad thing, punishment enough knowing it will likely kill her without proper help, and the baby itself is a problem. Hell, I'd have forgiven Rebecca too, just like I did Nick, if she'd apologized, but she didn't. She was just acting like a bitch the entire time. I can understand being concerned with the baby and all, which gives her some room to be moody, but she was straight up telling Clem that her days were basically numbered if Rebecca had anything to say about it. That's just horrible. Not as bad as Lilly was in Episode 3 I grant you, but this is NOT a good start for a character if we're supposed to feel sympathy for her later on.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Feb 6, 2014 0:45:32 GMT
I am really a tolerant person, I did not hate the Saint Johns, I did not hate Vernon, and I sympathized with the Stranger, it's just Lilly was my tipping point, point is all we know is she is a pregnant woman who does not like a 11 year old girl, there is likely a reason, I mean I hated Nick for being an asshole but I forgave him because he had a valid reason, that and being pregnant in the world of the walkers is a very, very bad thing, punishment enough knowing it will likely kill her without proper help, and the baby itself is a problem. Hell, I'd have forgiven Rebecca too, just like I did Nick, if she'd apologized, but she didn't. She was just acting like a bitch the entire time. I can understand being concerned with the baby and all, which gives her some room to be moody, but she was straight up telling Clem that her days were basically numbered if Rebecca had anything to say about it. That's just horrible. Not as bad as Lilly was in Episode 3 I grant you, but this is NOT a good start for a character if we're supposed to feel sympathy for her later on. I agree, it is a bad start, but it could be ever so worse, and I already feel like they are going to pull a Duck on us, they might not have pulled a Duck on Larry, but they will here, if she remains a bitch in episode 2 through it all, then yeah I will say screw her, but for now I will give her the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 1:24:36 GMT
good: you're not blinded by rage for a bitch. No, the rage is blinding, but when I get to that point you need to know everything about your enemy in order to fully hate them, and by the amount of hate, I know Lilly better then Lilly. But you don't know Lilly more than Lilly, though.
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Post by Rock114 on Feb 6, 2014 1:49:00 GMT
Hell, I'd have forgiven Rebecca too, just like I did Nick, if she'd apologized, but she didn't. She was just acting like a bitch the entire time. I can understand being concerned with the baby and all, which gives her some room to be moody, but she was straight up telling Clem that her days were basically numbered if Rebecca had anything to say about it. That's just horrible. Not as bad as Lilly was in Episode 3 I grant you, but this is NOT a good start for a character if we're supposed to feel sympathy for her later on. I agree, it is a bad start, but it could be ever so worse, and I already feel like they are going to pull a Duck on us, they might not have pulled a Duck on Larry, but they will here, if she remains a bitch in episode 2 through it all, then yeah I will say screw her, but for now I will give her the benefit of the doubt. It couldn't be much worse. The only way it could be worse was if she let the walker that attacked Clem into the shed herself. Even though she didn't, in my mind she'll be a bitch until she proves otherwise. The only reason I'm cool with Lilly getting a chance at forgiveness is because she wasn't a bad person from the very beginning. She was shown to actually have the capacity for being good inside of her, while Rebecca just has the capacity for bitchyness. I wouldn't be s hard on Rebecca if there had been SOMETHING redeeming about her, but there isn't. Not yet, at least.
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