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Post by Tommy Angelo on Nov 4, 2018 21:22:27 GMT
Just completed Chapter 1. First thing's first to avoid some confusion - I've never played Red Dead Redemption and I'm not aware of it's characters and plot in any way. The only knowledge I have about this game is that it is considered by many people as one of the greatest games ever made, that it had troubled development history (mentioned during the Benzies v. Take Two case). Anyways, I feel that I might be missing some references, but RDR2 is marketed as a prequel, so I think I'll manage to understand the story as it unfolds.
Anyhoo: What struck me in the beginning was how the game felt very... not-Rockstar. Chapter 1 is quite linear and very slow, but the way it plays out (interacting with the environment/characters) reminded me of Mafia 1/2. Since I love (1) and like (2) these games very much, it didn't bother me that the action is almost non-existent, save for two-three set pieces. I think it allows the player to familiarize with the gang. I like Javier, I think I like Micah, John's just... there, I guess? Herr Strauss seems odd but likeable while Dutch seems a bit too caring for the gang for his own good. We'll see how it goes from here. The story starts okay, and it scores a big plus because it isn't "Rockstarized", for a lack of a better words - e.g. it's not going for laughs or outright parody, GTA-style. R* already screwed the Max Payne franchise with that, so it's nice to actually see them going for something serious and not failing at that attempt, like with GTA4. However, I have one major criticism - controls. Back in 2012, when Payne 3 was released, Max was as easy to control as a block of concrete. Same thing is applicable here - it takes some time to learn and adjust to the controls. I know, I know - I'm complaining a lot, but these things are just minor obstacles. The game itself seems very good so far and I'm curious to see how the story unfolds.
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 4, 2018 22:43:20 GMT
Just completed Chapter 1. First thing's first to avoid some confusion - I've never played Red Dead Redemption and I'm not aware of it's characters and plot in any way. The only knowledge I have about this game is that it is considered by many people as one of the greatest games ever made, that it had troubled development history (mentioned during the Benzies v. Take Two case). Anyways, I feel that I might be missing some references, but RDR2 is marketed as a prequel, so I think I'll manage to understand the story as it unfolds.
Anyhoo: What struck me in the beginning was how the game felt very... not-Rockstar. Chapter 1 is quite linear and very slow, but the way it plays out (interacting with the environment/characters) reminded me of Mafia 1/2. Since I love (1) and like (2) these games very much, it didn't bother me that the action is almost non-existent, save for two-three set pieces. I think it allows the player to familiarize with the gang. I like Javier, I think I like Micah, John's just... there, I guess? Herr Strauss seems odd but likeable while Dutch seems a bit too caring for the gang for his own good. We'll see how it goes from here. The story starts okay, and it scores a big plus because it isn't "Rockstarized", for a lack of a better words - e.g. it's not going for laughs or outright parody, GTA-style. R* already screwed the Max Payne franchise with that, so it's nice to actually see them going for something serious and not failing at that attempt, like with GTA4. However, I have one major criticism - controls. Back in 2012, when Payne 3 was released, Max was as easy to control as a block of concrete. Same thing is applicable here - it takes some time to learn and adjust to the controls. I know, I know - I'm complaining a lot, but these things are just minor obstacles. The game itself seems very good so far and I'm curious to see how the story unfolds. John was the main character of RDR1, and here he's relegated to more of a supporting role. So, uh... I guess when it comes to RDR1 I'll continue to tag spoilers for that in case this game convinces you to pick that one up since you haven't played it before.
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Post by mmm on Nov 4, 2018 22:49:07 GMT
Just completed Chapter 1. First thing's first to avoid some confusion - I've never played Red Dead Redemption and I'm not aware of it's characters and plot in any way. The only knowledge I have about this game is that it is considered by many people as one of the greatest games ever made, that it had troubled development history (mentioned during the Benzies v. Take Two case). Anyways, I feel that I might be missing some references, but RDR2 is marketed as a prequel, so I think I'll manage to understand the story as it unfolds.
Anyhoo: What struck me in the beginning was how the game felt very... not-Rockstar. Chapter 1 is quite linear and very slow, but the way it plays out (interacting with the environment/characters) reminded me of Mafia 1/2. Since I love (1) and like (2) these games very much, it didn't bother me that the action is almost non-existent, save for two-three set pieces. I think it allows the player to familiarize with the gang. I like Javier, I think I like Micah, John's just... there, I guess? Herr Strauss seems odd but likeable while Dutch seems a bit too caring for the gang for his own good. We'll see how it goes from here. The story starts okay, and it scores a big plus because it isn't "Rockstarized", for a lack of a better words - e.g. it's not going for laughs or outright parody, GTA-style. R* already screwed the Max Payne franchise with that, so it's nice to actually see them going for something serious and not failing at that attempt, like with GTA4. However, I have one major criticism - controls. Back in 2012, when Payne 3 was released, Max was as easy to control as a block of concrete. Same thing is applicable here - it takes some time to learn and adjust to the controls. I know, I know - I'm complaining a lot, but these things are just minor obstacles. The game itself seems very good so far and I'm curious to see how the story unfolds. The fact that it's serious and slower paced is what makes RDR so much better than GTA IMO. There's actual tension at the darker moments because the rest of the game wasn't just shit jokes, and gun fights are even more satisfying because you haven't just been mowing people down for the past 70 hours already, not to mention there's a real chance to die in free roam if you get ambushed, which again adds tension that GTA has literally none of.
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Post by sos on Nov 4, 2018 23:36:37 GMT
Personally, I’ve never liked GTA. Not my scene.
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 5, 2018 5:56:39 GMT
Mid Chapter 6. No spoilers in this post, that's just how far I am. I went to play poker at Flatneck Station, won some good money, then lost most of it. I walked out with less than I came in with. Decided to leave, head north, do a story mission.
My horse was dead. It was the horse from Chapter 1 that you find in Sadie's barn. It had been with me the whole game. Now it's gone.
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Post by harp on Nov 5, 2018 7:05:44 GMT
Just completed Chapter 1. First thing's first to avoid some confusion - I've never played Red Dead Redemption and I'm not aware of it's characters and plot in any way. The only knowledge I have about this game is that it is considered by many people as one of the greatest games ever made, that it had troubled development history (mentioned during the Benzies v. Take Two case). Anyways, I feel that I might be missing some references, but RDR2 is marketed as a prequel, so I think I'll manage to understand the story as it unfolds.
Anyhoo: What struck me in the beginning was how the game felt very... not-Rockstar. Chapter 1 is quite linear and very slow, but the way it plays out (interacting with the environment/characters) reminded me of Mafia 1/2. Since I love (1) and like (2) these games very much, it didn't bother me that the action is almost non-existent, save for two-three set pieces. I think it allows the player to familiarize with the gang. I like Javier, I think I like Micah, John's just... there, I guess? Herr Strauss seems odd but likeable while Dutch seems a bit too caring for the gang for his own good. We'll see how it goes from here. The story starts okay, and it scores a big plus because it isn't "Rockstarized", for a lack of a better words - e.g. it's not going for laughs or outright parody, GTA-style. R* already screwed the Max Payne franchise with that, so it's nice to actually see them going for something serious and not failing at that attempt, like with GTA4. However, I have one major criticism - controls. Back in 2012, when Payne 3 was released, Max was as easy to control as a block of concrete. Same thing is applicable here - it takes some time to learn and adjust to the controls. I know, I know - I'm complaining a lot, but these things are just minor obstacles. The game itself seems very good so far and I'm curious to see how the story unfolds. Honestly, the story of RDR1 is probably better when you've played RDR2. I felt really disconnected from many of the characters John had affection for, and RDR2 really gives you that context. Definitely go back and play the original when you get a chance.
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 5, 2018 16:57:11 GMT
Spoilers for Chapter 6 and the Stranger mission "The Veteran." After losing my horse and the situation between the army and the Indians deteriorating, I decided to go on a hunting trip with my new pal Hamish Sinclair, the previously mentioned veteran. One of Arthur's only real friends now that Dutch has gone insane and half the gang died. Well, he got gored by a boar on our little hunting trip and he died too. He left me his horse, Buell, then succumbed to his wounds. He was cool. We went fishing together. He saved my life when we got ambushed by wolves up in the mountains.
All of Arthur's friends are dying, and so is he. He deserves it but goddamn it's painful to watch after he tries to turn the tiny remainder of his life around. The only friend he really has left is Charles, and possibly Sadie but she... is a bit too crazy for my liking. Better than Dutch by a mile but still a loose cannon. I just want Charles to make it. Please.
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 5, 2018 19:17:26 GMT
Spoilers for the ending of Chapter 6. I finished it. I cried.
The whole ride back to the camp, with the music and Arthur's thoughts going through his head was too much. It got to me.
FUCK Micah. I knew he was a traitor. I knew he'd stab us in the back ever since Strawberry, and I wanted to fucking shoot him ever since. Milton died at least, and Cornwall was killed a while ago, but goddamn Micah managed to survive and I truly detest every part of that serpent.
I let Arthur's hair and beard grow out since the start of Chapter 6, instead of keeping him relatively clean shaven like I had been, so by the time I got to the end he was pretty disheveled and haggard looking. Big beard, long hair, like he'd just come down from the mountains after a few years. And with the deterioration of the tuberculosis he just looked like a shell of the man that he once was. Made it feel even more... final, if that makes any sense.
Now, I was slightly spoiled for the ending. Very slightly. In my YouTube feed I saw a video titled "Ending: Leave with John" so I knew I'd have that choice, but I didn't know the context of it or the alternative option. I agonized over it, knowing I had a big, game changing decision ahead of me for some time, but in the moment it was the easiest choice I made in the game. I went with John in a heartbeat. Hang the money.
And fuck Dutch, too. I had one last chance to shoot that rat Micah and he stopped me. He walked away and left Micah behind, sure, but I could have put a bullet in him right then and now he's just... off somewhere, fucking a moose or something all alone in the wilderness. But Arthur still died happy because he managed to get John and his family out of there. He would have loved to kill Micah, but John's family was the important part, not that traitor.
Now in the two part Epilogue I get to play as John Marston again? Fuck yes. Game. Of. The. Year. 10/10 Perfect.
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Post by mmm on Nov 5, 2018 23:57:01 GMT
Massive end game spoilers: So John cant swim, if you try you'll have a few seconds to make it back to land while flailing around in the water before drowning. Cool detail that I'm surprised they actually added.
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 6, 2018 3:22:41 GMT
Even MORE massive end game spoilers than that. Don't read this until you are 110% CERTAIN you have completed the entirety of the game's story. I locked myself in my room and plowed through the whole epilogue right after beating Chapter 6. And... WOW. Fucking incredible. The game consistently exceeded my expectations during the main story, but then did it again with the two epilogue chapters with their own story showing how John Marston got to where he was in the first game. Seeing the troubles with the family while they tried to lay low, reuniting with Uncle and the rest of the gang while building the ranch at Beecher's Hope and finally, finally, FINALLY getting put all six rounds from Arthur's Schofield revolver right into Micah's venomous, smug face... fuck me, I couldn't have envisioned anything better.
And seeing the Marstons happy, after all they went through and before what they will go through was the best way to end it. It's a happy ending, of sorts, and almost certainly our last goodbye to these wonderful characters. And even though Edgar Ross destroys everything later on... they still got a few good years at Beecher's Hope. Arthur's sacrifice wasn't in vain.
Also, the game begins on a snowy mountain after the Blackwater robbery went wrong and the final shootout takes place on another snowy mountain nearly a decade later where the loot from that same robbery is finally claimed by John.
Also also, Arthur beat a man sick with tuberculosis more or less to death, and he died after contracting TB himself and being beaten nearly to death by Micah and then succumbing to his injuries and the sickness. Fucking bravo. Astonishing. Rockstar's magnum opus. Better than the first, which was already incredible, in every way.
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Post by sos on Nov 6, 2018 3:42:12 GMT
My god, how many hours a day are you guys playing? I JUST started chapter 3 and it feels like I've been playing a shit ton.
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Post by mmm on Nov 6, 2018 3:44:25 GMT
My god, how many hours a day are you guys playing? I JUST started chapter 3 and it feels like I've been playing a shit ton. I was off of everything for a week or so there so I've just been going pretty much non-stop lol, took a break a day but other than that.
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 6, 2018 3:52:25 GMT
My god, how many hours a day are you guys playing? I JUST started chapter 3 and it feels like I've been playing a shit ton. I had today off, and since I was so close to the end I decided to power through. I pretty much played from around 8 today to... about an hour or so ago, with a couple breaks in between to eat and whatnot. I'd also done a lot of side missions and activities during Chapters 2 and 3, so by the time I got to 6 I felt it was most appropriate to just shotgun through the story missions instead of messing around. No ragrets.
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Post by Lyric 💗💜💙 on Nov 6, 2018 5:08:14 GMT
Just got to Chapter 4 Sean's death was honestly really shocking. I don't know if it hit me too much beyond the initial impact.. .but yeah. I'm really enjoying the story and the characters. Saint Denis is a really cool city to walk around it.
sidenote: the occasional conversations with Mary-Beth are a bit weird bc I've been playing as high honor as possible so, yeah not killing innocents lol
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Post by Niccc on Nov 6, 2018 6:39:35 GMT
This motherfucking game.... Spoilers for the end of Chapter 6. ARTHUR MOTHERFUCKING MORGAN EVERYBODY. He has got to be one of my favorite fictional characters in any video game now. His death was PERFECT. And I knew Micah was a fucking rat all along, but it turns out he was only a rat until after Guarma, they said?
I knew Arthur was going to die, but I didn't expect for him to die at the end of Chapter 6 and for us to play John in the two-part epilogue. It really feels good to play as John again, although I will miss my boah Arthur, what an absolute fucking unit he was. I like how John's skinny as shit and the game says his weight is 'perfect' but skinny Arthur is 10x more bulk than him. Absolute. Unit.
What a fantastic game. 10 out of fucking 10.
Now... on to complete the epilogue. Playing as my boah John Marston.
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