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Post by Rock114 on Nov 15, 2018 4:02:27 GMT
Damn, I just discovered that there are chores you can do in camp. Short little activities that give you a small amount of Positive Honor and Deadeye XP upon completion. I don't know why this is so amazing to me but it is.
Also, I'm going to Platinum this game. At some point. Probably not now, maybe, but eventually.
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Post by harp on Nov 15, 2018 5:39:46 GMT
Damn, I just discovered that there are chores you can do in camp. Short little activities that give you a small amount of Positive Honor and Deadeye XP upon completion. I don't know why this is so amazing to me but it is. Also, I'm going to Platinum this game. At some point. Probably not now, maybe, but eventually. From what I hear, it also makes your gang treat you kinder
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 15, 2018 5:52:27 GMT
Damn, I just discovered that there are chores you can do in camp. Short little activities that give you a small amount of Positive Honor and Deadeye XP upon completion. I don't know why this is so amazing to me but it is. Also, I'm going to Platinum this game. At some point. Probably not now, maybe, but eventually. From what I hear, it also makes your gang treat you kinder Mah boahs Lenny and Charles treat me kindly anyway. Their acceptance is all I need.
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Post by sos on Nov 15, 2018 11:26:01 GMT
So close to the end of chapter 4 I can almost taste it. I can’t wait to get the fuck outta Saint Denis. I HATE that place.
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Post by Lyric 💗💜💙 on Nov 15, 2018 21:21:25 GMT
no yea the chores are a nice little feature I really like them
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Post by Lyric 💗💜💙 on Nov 16, 2018 2:07:15 GMT
Spoilers for chapter 6 does Arthur still get tb if you don’t beat Downes? I mean technically I didn’t beat him and only threatened him, but if you choose dismiss does Arthur still get sick?
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 16, 2018 6:21:08 GMT
Spoilers for chapter 6 does Arthur still get tb if you don’t beat Downes? I mean technically I didn’t beat him and only threatened him, but if you choose dismiss does Arthur still get sick? Spoilers for Chapter 6 Arthur hits Downes automatically when Downes swings his rake at him when Arthur confronts him. At the end of the confrontation, when Arthur is holding him against the fence, Downes coughs in his face which is most likely the moment Arthur was infected. Even if Arthur hadn't hit him on his own at the start a good cough would still have given him tuberculosis.
On a side note, I was at a friend's house earlier tonight in the middle of town and, in the darkness outside his window, I saw a deer of all things run by. For a second I thought that I might have had TB.
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Post by Niccc on Nov 16, 2018 9:26:43 GMT
Spoilers for chapter 6 does Arthur still get tb if you don’t beat Downes? I mean technically I didn’t beat him and only threatened him, but if you choose dismiss does Arthur still get sick? Spoilers for Chapter 6 Arthur hits Downes automatically when Downes swings his rake at him when Arthur confronts him. At the end of the confrontation, when Arthur is holding him against the fence, Downes coughs in his face which is most likely the moment Arthur was infected. Even if Arthur hadn't hit him on his own at the start a good cough would still have given him tuberculosis.
On a side note, I was at a friend's house earlier tonight in the middle of town and, in the darkness outside his window, I saw a deer of all things run by. For a second I thought that I might have had TB.
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 19, 2018 23:11:39 GMT
I'll take a short break from the never-ending hand job I've been giving this game and lay out some criticisms, because while it is a perfect game there are some improvements that could be made. Yes, logically if it was truly perfect there wouldn't be any criticisms but this is 2018 so logic doesn't matter anymore. Needless to say, spoilers for the entire game. I'll start out with the biggest problem, and the only one that made me stop and scratch my head: Guarma.
Guarma is just so strange and out of place in the story. The main plot is sidetracked for several hours with most of the characters being left behind for Dutch, Arthur, Bill, Javier, and Micah's adventures on a tropical island that isn't related to anything that came before, at least not in any meaningful way. We get a few moments of Dutch starting to really lose it but those could have been put anywhere, and the story as a whole would have been better served if Guarma were left out entirely. A few missions of cat and mouse with Milton's men after fleeing Saint Denis, with the group getting split up along the way to throw their safety into question, would have been more appropriate. Then it can end with the big shootout in the swamp where Milton brings in the machine gun like it normally does. It feels like they wanted to do Mexico again: The player is stranded in a foreign land with few friends and no real way to reach their goal, until mingling with the local rebellion fighting against a tyrannical despot and his army. But... Guarma is so linear and poorly paced that it doesn't work. It feels like there was a lot of content cut from Chapter 5 and I'm not sure if having that would have made it better or worse.
But... I still liked Guarma. I didn't love it like I do the rest of the game but the game itself was fun enough to keep me entertained through its worst Chapter. Now what else...
New Austin is just barren. There isn't nearly enough content there to justify adding it on to the game. I know, it's probably there for Online, but it's just so much nothingness that it irks me. The time spent on that could have been spent on improving Guarma or making something better than Guarma for Chapter 5.
Playing as John is great after the epilogue... but it doesn't make a lot of sense since he just wants to settle down with his family at Beecher's Hope. He wouldn't be hunting bounties or clearing gang hideouts, robbing trains and banks, or searching for gold. He left that life behind. The best thing you can do from a story perspective is just turn off the game after the credits the roll and head straight into RDR1 if you want to play as him again.
My remaining few complaints are minor, but I'll put them down regardless. Ambarino needed a town like Valentine or Rhodes instead of just being a state full of mountains. More locations for each minigame in the main story instead of only 3 each. On the subject of mini-games, each one needed a "High-Stakes" version. Maybe not Dominoes, but the other three certainly did. By the time you get to Saint Denis the $5 buy in for poker there is just trivial. They were on the right track with the riverboat mission, but they should have put that into the actual game as well. Allowing you discard/sell weapons to prevent ones you dislike from being auto-equipped would be a nice quality of life feature. And... nothing else comes to mind right now so I guess that's it. My issues with the game.
EDIT: I FORGOT ONE THING. We needed more DUELS. I only came across five in the whole game and four of those were part of a mission. John can get into 20 just screwing around in the first game but even if Arthur goes looking he can only find five. It's a damn travesty. Even after saying all that... the game is still 10/10 in my eyes.
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Post by Lyric 💗💜💙 on Nov 20, 2018 2:26:39 GMT
Finally finished the game. I really really liked it. I heard the online has some narrative stuff that's gonna come with it? If that's true I'll probably wait 'til it comes out to get back into the game bc playing it now and doing the typical open world stuff after the epilogue just doesn't feel quite right. Arthur's death was really sad (as was the death of my horse Leo q_q), but it was awesome to see John, Charles, and Sadie avenge him in the end. I was terrified Charles and Sadie were gonna die but I'm glad they got out ok. I don't believe Sadie would ever settle down so honestly, if they do any singleplayer story dlc and not just all online stuff, I'd love to see more of Sadie's story. I guess it's not really necessary, but I never felt we got enough of her in the main story. Like, she'd be my ideal character for singleplayer story dlc, then maybe Arthur before the start of the game, then John. Much as I like John, he's last bc honestly, him being on the ranch feels right. His story from now until rdr1 should be done. Also, not Charles bc he deserves to settle down and have a good life.
Anyway, I thought the game was pretty great. Didn't love it as much as some people. Honestly, there's a lot of boring nonsense in there. The cowboy sim stuff didn't work for me most of the time. Sometimes it was cool though, and the story was really good./spoiler]
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Post by sos on Nov 24, 2018 23:48:48 GMT
Mid-chapter 6 spoilers. Hamish dying absolutely sucks dick. What a great friendship that was between him and Arthur. Possibly my favorite series of stranger missions ever.
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Post by Niccc on Nov 25, 2018 0:13:40 GMT
Mid-chapter 6 spoilers. Hamish dying absolutely sucks dick. What a great friendship that was between him and Arthur. Possibly my favorite series of stranger missions ever. You'll take care of Buell, won't you?
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Post by Rock114 on Nov 25, 2018 3:27:07 GMT
Mid-chapter 6 spoilers. Hamish dying absolutely sucks dick. What a great friendship that was between him and Arthur. Possibly my favorite series of stranger missions ever. Buell is the best horse in the game not because of stats but because of the emotional attachment that is already there. He was my main mount from that point on.
And yeah, that chain of missions was great. Chapter 6 has the best Stranger missions in the game, possibly any Rockstar game. If you haven't already check out the one at the very top of the map north of Annesburg.
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Post by sos on Nov 25, 2018 9:12:19 GMT
Finished Chapter 6. Mesmerizing game. A true feat.
Fuck Dutch, Fuck Bill, Fuck Javier. The latter disappointed me so. He seemed level-headed, but nope. Fuck all of 'em. Glad John got to end them once and for all. As Arthur said so perfectly: "you rats."
AND ARTHUR. My GOODNESS what a character. So perfectly polished. His arc was even more impressive than John's and that's not taking anything away from John's RDR story. Arthur's is just THAT good. The way the entirety of his Chapter 6 is built is fantastic too. A ton of over-the-top redemptive stuff of course with Rain Falls and Mrs. Downes, but it's the small stranger missions like The Veteran and the few simple visits with Charlotte that are spectacularly perfect given everything that's happening around Arthur and what's happening to him.
I don't even need to say FUCK Micah. It's implied in my mere existence. All humans have share two common truths: they will eventually die and they all hate that worthless, outey-belly button, sack of shit. I PRAY I get to kill him in the Epilogues. PLEASE.
Music was all terrific, scenes were all terrific and we get to finish her off playing as John again. Unreal So good.
Oh, and what LUNATIC would go back for the money instead of getting John to safety? That's one thing I'll nitpick. Like... what's the reasoning? It could only be that Arthur and the player thinks John, Abigail and Jack will need it, right? Because otherwise, it completely contradicts the entire destruction of the Dutch/Arthur dynamic. Dutch is all about the money and that disgusts Arthur. ...then Arthur decides to ditch John and go back for the money that he'll never, ever get? Ah, no.
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Post by Niccc on Nov 25, 2018 9:23:48 GMT
Finished Chapter 6. Mesmerizing game. A true feat.
Fuck Dutch, Fuck Bill, Fuck Javier. The latter disappointed me so. He seemed level-headed, but nope. Fuck all of 'em. Glad John got to end them once and for all. As Arthur said so perfectly: "you rats."
AND ARTHUR. My GOODNESS what a character. So perfectly polished. His arc was even more impressive than John's and that's not taking anything away from John's RDR story. Arthur's is just THAT good. The way the entirety of his Chapter 6 is built is fantastic too. A ton of over-the-top redemptive stuff of course with Rain Falls and Mrs. Downes, but it's the small stranger missions like The Veteran and the few simple visits with Charlotte that are spectacularly perfect given everything that's happening around Arthur and what's happening to him.
I don't even need to say FUCK Micah. It's implied in my mere existence. All humans have share two common truths: they will eventually die and they all hate that worthless, outey-belly button, sack of shit. I PRAY I get to kill him in the Epilogues. PLEASE.
Music was all terrific, scenes were all terrific and we get to finish her off playing as John again. Unreal So good.
Oh, and what LUNATIC would go back for the money instead of getting John to safety? That's one thing I'll nitpick. Like... what's the reasoning? It could only be that Arthur and the player thinks John, Abigail and Jack will need it, right? Because otherwise, it completely contradicts the entire destruction of the Dutch/Arthur dynamic. Dutch is all about the money and that disgusts Arthur. ...then Arthur decides to ditch John and go back for the money that he'll never, ever get? Ah, no. The only way the 'go for the money' ending makes sense for Arthur is that he wants to settle things with Micah and try to save Dutch. But even then... Arthur's not a man of vengeance. Also.... go visit Charlotte now that you're in the epilogue.
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