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Post by Autobot Sonic Part II on Nov 20, 2016 18:08:56 GMT
Honestly I'll be more pissed if it ends up being true. Like, if the choice that determines if Harvey fully becomes Two-Face is if you saved him in Episode 3 or not. Because that would be bullshit. Seriously, if Harvey still becomes Two-Face for me because of that, even though I stopped Penguin from disfiguring him. I thought they meant in the third act of Ep. 4, not Ep. 3...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 18:15:20 GMT
Honestly I'll be more pissed if it ends up being true. Like, if the choice that determines if Harvey fully becomes Two-Face is if you saved him in Episode 3 or not. Because that would be bullshit. Seriously, if Harvey still becomes Two-Face for me because of that, even though I stopped Penguin from disfiguring him. I thought they meant in the third act of Ep. 4, not Ep. 3... Oh, probably.
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Post by jake frost on Nov 20, 2016 19:43:09 GMT
Special note: Players will leave this episode in very different places depending on where they choose to go in the third act, and this will greatly affect their story rolling into the season finale as well.Just noticed THIS little gem. Lol.That tweet is pretty much a meme these days.
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Post by sos on Nov 21, 2016 4:25:52 GMT
(Honestly kinda sucks this episode is coming out and I have to burn two precious hours to play it when I desperately need those hours to catch up on TWD before s3 and catch up on TV.)
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Post by jake frost on Nov 22, 2016 3:24:38 GMT
(Honestly kinda sucks this episode is coming out and I have to burn two precious hours to play it when I desperately need those hours to catch up on TWD before s3 and catch up on TV.) I just watched the Episode on youtube (for research and to justify my disdain) and I would say continue playing TWD. I'd say Batman 4 is a step down again after a half decent episode 3.
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Post by sos on Nov 22, 2016 19:59:58 GMT
Judging by the activity in this thread, looks like EVERYONE chose to catch up on TWD today. LOL!
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Post by o0HeaDShoT0o on Nov 22, 2016 21:08:11 GMT
Just got done with the penultimate. Being a patient in an actual mad house sucks. And, I was actually surprised to see Joker, or should I go by his alias "John Doe", appear in this series. To me, this Joker looks younger, fresh into the life as the Clown Prince of Crime. And it was interesting to see Zsasz there, and Blockbuster again. But I'm glad to have gotten out of there, thanks to Alfred and Gordon. I didn't want to stay there any longer than I had to. And I'm wondering what this favor that Joker is wanting from me will be? Knowing that psycho, I ain't gonna like it when the time comes. Does it have something to do with that key he gave me? I didn't try to use it in the room with the other inmates. That would've been too easy.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Selina decided to bail on me to save her own skin, but I sure could've used her help. I'm glad that Lucius was there in the Batcave and gave me a new upgrade. Sure came in handy in dealing with one of Penguin's drones. That cocky little shite's really turning the tables on Batman by compromising all of the crime-fighting tech. At least he can't hack the grapple gun and batarangs. Right? That boy that survived the Vale assassination, though. We never did learn what his name was, but now he's going through the same thing young Bruce did before. Maybe someday in the future, he might become a member of the Bat-family.
Things have seriously gone from bad, to really bad, to clusterfuck in Gotham City. With Lady Arkham terrorizing the streets, Harvey abusing his power and Penguin taking control of Wayne Enterprises tech. And now, the way things had ended for me, I have no more access to the tech, leaving the Batcave in complete darkness. Alfred and Lucius are safe, but what's a crime-fighter to do without his tools?
MY CHOICES: -I agreed to owe Joker a favor. He scratches my back, I (may or may not) scratch his. -I followed Joker's advice and made a call to Gordon. Seemed like the best option. I wanted out of the mad house ASAP. -I chose to ram the barricade. I didn't want to give a handout to the crooked security. So, when in doubt, improvise an option 3. -I chose to go talk with Harvey as Batman. I already talked with the last mayor as Bruce, so I figured it might be good to switch it up a little. -I chose to stop Harvey from destroying my home. Another decision where I had to pause and think. In the end, I thought about how much danger Alfred would be in if I left him to fend for himself at the Manor. Tech can be replaced, but there's only one Alfred.
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Post by sos on Nov 23, 2016 3:09:14 GMT
I actually really liked Telltale's take on Joker. I mean he had the height of Patrick fucking Ewing and was about as old as someone about to go for their learner's permit, but he reminded me a lot of Handsome Jack and that's always a plus in my eyes. I thought his VA did a great job. A little repetitive maybe, but still great.
Episode overall was a little dull. PENULTIMATE CURSE CONTINUES!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 4:13:30 GMT
Well that was fucking disappointing. Thoughts:Okay, I'm going to leave most of my disappointment about the episode til the end of this little ramble.
So, Telltale's version of the Joker? Pretty good overall. I kept thinking about what Harp said, that in the trailer he looked like a kid hopped up on sugar... and that's kind of how he acted, too. He wasn't scary, funny, or weird... he was just hyper. And you know what? That kind of works. I like the idea of a young Joker, full of chaotic energy with no clear direction... yet. I think what Zsasz said kind of solidified it, how his work is sloppy but he has enthusiasm, or something along those lines. It's interesting, and the VA was really quite good. Telltale also did their best to give him some unique mannerisms, so I liked that, too.
Also, this is one of the few times I think I've noticed the directing of any episode. A lot of scenes were way more cinematic than is usual for Telltale. It was really good. The drug effect thing was pushing the limits though by the time Bruce got the antidote.
Gotham, like so many other places in Telltale Series', feels a bit empty. Mob justice of like.... 3 people. :/ Telltale really needs to update their engine. Not just the little tweaks that keep the series' looking marginally better each line-up or whatever. They really need to take the time to make a significant upgrade.
Don't know what to think about Selina leaving. Does she do that no matter what? Because if she does, that's really lame. For my playthrough, it felt okay though since her and Bruce were just friends.
I'll be shocked if that kid's name isn't Duke Thomas. I mentioned in that thread I made that I was looking forward to seeing Dick Grayson, Barbara Gordon, Jason Todd, etc. in the future of the series, but if we're(possibly) getting the more recent members of the bat-family? I really hope someone at Telltale working on Batman in the future is a fan of Bluebird. Anyway, good moment. There really wasn't much with Lady Arkham, but I feel like I need to say that I'm not really happy about how they're handling her. I mean, at first I was okay with it because if she's really Victoria Arkham, that meant there was a possibility the "real" Vicki Vale might be a character, but I guess not. Basically, I thought they'd make it a reversal of how the character is usually perceived. Her search for the truth above all else is always seen as a good thing, but here, it's taken to an extreme. And it would have made a nice connection with the drug that makes people tell the truth and act out on their impulses. Instead, she's basically just a more extreme version of Penguin. And now I'm just left wondering why Arkham is apparently a master chemist like Scarecrow, and Oz is somehow able to hack Wayne Tech. I mean, I have a hunch that maybe Lucius is a traitor, but I guess it could also be that Telltale just won't bother to explain why Oz is a master hacker.
And then the shit with Harvey. All that nonsense about possibly being able to save him from becoming Two-Face, Telltale saying that Batman is one of their most choice-driven series. I knew I shouldn't have bought into it. Seriously, just what is the fucking point? I can't imagine anything is different other than his appearance, and the fact that his opinion on Bruce and Batman is reversed. This is the most frustrated I'e been with Telltale about their choices. I didn't care that TWD S2 had choices that even as you made them, it was clear they didn't matter. I didn't care that TTGOT railroaded you into certain actions. This I'm pissed about though. Because Telltale appears to be so happy with themselves over doing absolutely fucking nothing.
The final fight scene was really good. QTEs felt really smooth and it was suitably dramatic. Final note: the lip syncing was really off. Guess they rushed this one a bit. Choices:-Agreed to owe Joker a favor. Honestly, this is one of the few times I've "roleplayed" in a Telltale game. It would have felt weird for Bruce to be immediately hostile and suspicious of the Joker, in my opinion. -Interfered in the fight. I mean, that was probably the easiest choice for me. But.... how is Bruce not dead? -Paid of the enforcer. I mean... what does that matter to Bruce Wayne? And I still had the idea that I didn't want to piss off Harvey but I guess that didn't matter. -Went to Harvey as Bruce. Seriously, why would Harvey have Bruce killed? Why would he kill innocents? What the fuck??? -Went to Wayne Manor. I don't know, just felt more appropriate to go after the guy that had just tried to have Bruce killed. Better finale. -Told Gordon to send Harvey to Arkham.
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Post by Autobot Sonic Part II on Nov 23, 2016 4:47:05 GMT
Is the episode out on Steam yet? I've been waiting all day and I don't have it.
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Post by Niccc on Nov 23, 2016 6:52:42 GMT
Meh.
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Post by Niccc on Nov 23, 2016 7:46:35 GMT
I'll go ahead and leave my full review. Okay, I liked the first 20 minutes. The Joker wasn't mindblowing or anything, but he was alright. That's about it. I appreciate the voice, it didn't sound so slimy like Heath and Jared's (which was good, besides Jared who was abysmal, I just appreciated they stepped away from that).
I ran to the phone, called my Lawyers. I didn't choose the Gordon connection because I don't remember ever having a Gordon connection. I gave the Falcone stuff to Vicki Vale, and what did I do for Gordon as Bruce? Uh.... nothing? Called my lawyers.
The barricade scene was pretty fucking stupid. Like, what kind of a choice is that? And why is that a major choice?
TWO PEOPLE on one street of Gotham. And some random dickwad shows up with a bat and starts bashing the car in with a bat.
"FIRST ONE'S A WARNING SHOT!" *does nothing about the guy bashing the car with a fucking baseball bat* - And really? Pay off the law enforcement dickheads? Absolutely not. I rammed that fuckin' barricade down. That literally had no consequence. Hilarious. A major choice that didn't even at least a small mention.
I always enjoy the Detective parts, but I'm still not sold on the whole Vicki Vale is a psychopathic murderer, but whatever. Still stupid as hell. Vicki did nothing in Episode 4, and I wonder what she'll bring to the table in Episode 5.
Went to Harvey as Bruce. Alright, mini-rant. And I'm sure this has been said many times already, but I saved Harvey in episode 2. He did not get his face burnt. What is the goddamn point? Why is that even a choice, Telltale? If you were going to have the exact same thing happen besides a few different dialogues, what is the goddamn point? I backed Harvey EVERY step of the way. His sudden two-faced personality makes no FUCKING sense. Okay, the drug fucked him up. W-what? Why does that give him split personalities? He LITERALLY blew up an entire city block, I mean are you fucking kidding me!? And he says the exact same thing as he does if he was Two-Face. I punched Harvey in the face. The friend I knew was gone. FUCK him. He was gonna stage my suicide.
I told the cops to pull the trigger, they didn't do it. I was hoping I'd get a GOT ep4 type game-over. Whatever, that was kind of weird. Not sure how I feel about that scene.
And for the last scene... I went to Wayne Manor. End this stupid fucking Harvey nonsense. I didn't want the shit dragging into Episode 5 because it'd probably hurt my view of the episode because I'd be so pissed that Harvey was doing shit that he shouldn't be doing because he didn't get half his face burned off. As soon as I had Harvey on the ground, I was just like "Let me fucking kill him. End it already." But there wasn't a choice (shocker), so I said I still believed in Harvey Dent, and he said it was good to hear that. I think there's a TINY bit of Harvey left, but it doesn't matter enough. I sent Harvey to Blackgate. He'd get worse over in Arkham, plus he'd probably get out. I'm guessing Joker's gonna get out somewhere and then Harvey and Zsasz and others will get out with him.
I'd rather have Oz as the villain for Ep5 instead of Harvey. The Harvey shit is so dumb. But yeah, that's it, I guess. I stopped my Bat-Tech, so I don't have that for now.
Oh, and yeah, can we talk about Selina fuckin' Kyle? I figured she'd leave either way. Typical Telltale. I will say, it made sense for her to do that, but it's still a shitty fucking goodbye and it's pretty bullshit.
Whatever. What a lame episode. Definitely the worst one. I'll give it a 5/10
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Post by Autobot Sonic Part II on Nov 23, 2016 15:02:58 GMT
Done with the episode... So I'll just do this in order. First off like everyone else said John-I mean Joker is a really cool character. His VA seems to fit him really well, but he's definitely no Mark Hamill. I'm glad that what Zyphon and I thought looks like it's gonna come true and that we won't see him again till the end of Ep. 5.
The whole direction Telltale seems to be going with Vicki is pretty good too. I don't have much to go off of since I'm not an avid reader of the comics, but it seems promising.
However I do have to point out some disappointments with this episode. Like everyone else said Selina leaving no matter what is disappointing, even though I did save Harvey over her. Along with that, I'm SLIGHTLY disappointed with Harvey's basically becoming a "Two-Face without the Two-Face", but who knows? Maybe if he comes back in season 2 they'll do something different with him. Mah Choices:
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Post by jake frost on Nov 23, 2016 23:54:43 GMT
Haven't seen any mention of those horrendous sound bugs yet - just remembered that.
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Post by Autobot Sonic Part II on Nov 24, 2016 0:20:08 GMT
Haven't seen any mention of those horrendous sound bugs yet - just remembered that. I didn't get any in my playthrough. From what I've seen it only happened to people who got the episode on Monday or early Tuesday. I played it earlier today and it was fine. From what I've seen it's just like GOT Ep. 5's horrendous sound bugs. At least Batman actually had SOME sound on release...
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