Is... no one considering that it might be a trick? I don't know, I still think that that's possible. Give us a shocker ending like that, and then completely switch things around in Episode 4.
That was my first thought too. Maybe somehow she's hopped up on that drug. But she's been everywhere the Children of Arkham have been publicly (which might just be the debate, can't remember), plus she gave the location of the "source."
oh, and just to comment on your "it would be pretty stupid to punch him" thing. It absolutely is. But I still did it. Holy hell did it feel good. I loathe that dirty London worm. Unless you pay for it down the line it looks like a meaningless choice anyways. The press conference at the end goes south regardless.
😃🍔🦖🔥🍻☠️🤔🤔🎄😂😂😂 "Maybe we are condemned to walk in circles, chasing the skyline. Maybe it is all a lie. Oh, this is a terrible land of broken promises."
Watched the playthrough on YT -found the one where Harvey was saved, because that's what I would've done had I actually played myself). Then I quickly checked the other one and the only thing that came to my mind was this - Telltale isn't providing even an illusion of choice anymore. Harvey ends up with split personality, smashed face or not. Anyone needs further proof that Telltale has one canon version of the story in mind and forces players to play by their rules? A monumental choice with little to no payoff. Where have we seen that before? Oh, yes, that's right - kill/spare Dum, ask for/avoid Tyrion's help, abandon/save Sarah...*
But that's not even what bothers me that much. After all, if the story is right, I can turn a blind eye on that thing above. What annoyed the hell out of me were illogical events in the episode that either contradict previous episodes or are simply unbelieveable.
Harvey expresses concern over Selina's absence in hospital. Player tries to be sympathetic towards him, only to be railroaded into having sex with Catwoman. And of course, Harvey comes in! But that's a little problem.
"Mr Cobblepot is quite accomplished when it comes to his business in England."/"Cobblepot's rap sheet's squeaky clean." Like, WTF?! Didn't Bruce - whose computer is connected to GCPD! - check out Oz's rap sheet back in Episode 1? Brawls, arms dealings, illegal trade... all this somehow evaporated and Bruce doesn't acknowledge it. (For those who'll say that COA might've erased that data - Bruce had that file on his computer. If he was worried that handing over evidence on yet another criminal would draw attention to him, he could've handed that files to Gordon as Batman.) And thus, Oz becomes the CEO.
The fact that Wayne Enterprises board asks Bruce to step down - the footage that COA played at the debate might've been real, but still, that's a tape published by terrorists. And the board just gives in? In real life, having a CEO step down after such accusations would be seen as admitting to the crime, replacing him by someone unknown just for the sake of 'compensating' for the past would cause the stock to drop down even more. (The only resolution that would redeem this storyline is to have Regina Zellerbach have some shady connections to the organized crime/COA)
And that final twist... unless Telltale goes full Batman Begins on us (Henri Ducard mixed with Ra's al Ghul) and Vicki is an alias of one of the comic book villains (look no further than Talia al Ghul) then the twist doesn't make any sense. If Vicki - simply as a Vicki Vale - is the leader of COA... then why would she do this? What's her motivation? Why strike right now, with a change for a better being possible - and not while Hill was still in charge? When was she able to gather a group of mercenaries for her own cause? Why would she try to help Bruce straighten things out with the press in Episode 1 - only to condemn him in Episode 3? (Vicki was, to be honest, acting way out of character in Ep3 in comparison to the previous episodes).
Really, if this was Telltale's original plan for the story... then, for the first time ever, I wish they would actually rewrite it during the season, like they did in the past games. Maybe they would've come up with something better.
*As Jayko mentioned earlier, the sales (at least on Steam) are truly awful. With the stories being weaker than earlier, choices having not much of an impact, I think that Telltale simply exhaused their 'illusion of choice' trick and people don't believe it anymore. Basically, as of now, they drove their gameplay model into the ground. TWD3 may fare better because of the brand... but I don't think any future games will be successfull. If the IP as big as Batman can't crack 100k sold copies, then I don't know what will.
That's probably why they're giving Ep1 on Steam for free. I don't think it's going to work. What they need to do is fix their engine and go back to the drawing board with the choice-consequence system.
Seriously the Save Harvey choice is pretty much pointless, since he turns Two-Face either way(just without the actual two-face burn). I might go back and save Selina since after we banged she said "you were clear where we stood at the debate."
I think the whole thing with Harvey is similar with Kenny at the end of Around Every Corner. It's not about trying to prevent him from becoming Two-Face, I think it's more about surpressing his Evil side. Maybe somewhere in episode 4 or 5, Bruce will face off against Harvey and if you picked most choices that supported Harvey and prevent him from getting Two-Faced, he will manage to overcome his bad side but if you let him get Two-Faced and choose any option against him, his Two-Face ego will be the most dominant.
If I had to rank all Telltale Games post-TWD, here's how I'd rate them:
1. Tales From the Borderlands 2. TWD S2 3. TWD S1 4. Batman (So far) 5. Minecraft Story Mode 6. Game of Thrones 7. TWD Michonne 8. The Wolf Among Us
At this point, I honestly can't rank any of their games right now, because the more I think about any of them, the more annoyed I become. Even when it comes to TFTBL - after Telltale's revelation about Loader Bot turned into the Stranger due to fan feedback, I found myself thinking about how illogical the ending was.
I'd rather preserve the good image of the games in my mind.
Post by thatstoo2019man on Oct 27, 2016 20:05:50 GMT
You know, Bruce Wanye's life went down the shitter at high velocity. He learned that his father was shady as fuck, his friend and ally turned into a disfigured maniac, he lost the main funding for everything he has and now he's been put into a fucking asylum. But I think there's one thing that will help him through all the shit he's in, whenever he's reaching his breaking point, one thought will keep him alive: The ass was fat.