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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 20:24:16 GMT
I like Oz, but I think it's a harder choice than that, because honestly, siding with Oz, what good can he do? Having Harvey as the Mayor, Arkham will be torn down, and Bruce can make more political moves to fight crime. Then again, it's also good not to discredit what Bruce/Batman could do if Oz were an ally, because he'd have someone to help him on the streets. If Oz starts his "revolution", yeah, he doesn't have the political power Harvey would, but he'd have more power dealing with crime on the streets. I don't think either option is better than the other, it just depends on how you want to do things.
That being said, putting Harvey on the Mayor's seat would involve working with Falcone, Hill, and others as a necessary evil. Whereas working with Oz wouldn't. Plus, I do like Oz more as a character. So, given my own prediction/hypothetical choice, I'd side with Oz.
But yeah, seeing as to how Telltale have been emphasizing that your choices will affect the villains and "things may not happen as you expect from the comics", I honestly think there's a good chance that that, or something like that, could actually happen later on.
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Post by sos on Aug 10, 2016 4:19:37 GMT
Man, can you imagine any of the Walking Dead episodes, or, hell, even any of the Tales episodes barely getting three pages of discussion? Brutal.
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Post by Tommy Angelo on Aug 10, 2016 4:45:13 GMT
Man, can you imagine any of the Walking Dead episodes, or, hell, even any of the Tales episodes barely getting three pages of discussion? Brutal. I asked for a refund for my Steam copy, so I can understand that. The game was unplayable no matter what I did. Watched the playthrough on YT and didn't feel like missing anything. As for the story - it seems like TT is playing its own version of The Dark Knight/The Dark Knight Rises. Bruce is the tentpole of Harvey's campaign, so regardless of our decisions once he becomes Two-Face Bruce will be blamed by everyone for supporting a villain. Meh. (quite likely that Bruce will suffer some consequences because of that) Oz talks about 'Revolution knocking at the door' with rich and powerfull being targets. Sounds Bane-ish, so I guess the city will be plagued by terrorist attacks (although not on a TDKR scale, I think). Zellerbachs (or whatever their name is) will probably have something to do with the press conference leak and/or shady past of Wayne's. Bats and Catwoman will forge an unlikely alliance - she'll probably do that in exchange for Bruce's help with the drive situation in Ep1. (that's definitely going to happen, since it's shown in ep2 teaser) Vicki/Gordon will figure out Batman's identity before the end. (hints made by TT are not very subtle...) The story is simply going through motions we know, despite its attempts to cover it up. Aaand it's going to use the same old trick of blaming the player for the stuff we can't control and are predetermined from the start. (shaking/not shaking Falcone's hand still results in news report about Waynes being implied as criminals...) Kind of like in GOT. I think people are getting tired of this and are either moving on or playing because of the sentiment towards TT. Look at it this way - if you take TWDS1 out of the picture (which, when it comes to choice and consequence, it's their best game) I believe TT would be in a far worse situation right now. A fanatstic story is what drew people towards their games. Now it seems that TT is settling around the good/average territory. That, in a story-driven game, may be problematic. |
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Post by Tommy Angelo on Aug 10, 2016 4:50:08 GMT
Oh, and one more thing - I also have a feeling that those tickets will be wildly important later. There's just no way TT keeps showing them to us for no apparent reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 4:56:57 GMT
Man, can you imagine any of the Walking Dead episodes, or, hell, even any of the Tales episodes barely getting three pages of discussion? Brutal. I asked for a refund for my Steam copy, so I can understand that. The game was unplayable no matter what I did. Watched the playthrough on YT and didn't feel like missing anything. As for the story - it seems like TT is playing its own version of The Dark Knight/The Dark Knight Rises. Bruce is the tentpole of Harvey's campaign, so regardless of our decisions once he becomes Two-Face Bruce will be blamed by everyone for supporting a villain. Meh. (quite likely that Bruce will suffer some consequences because of that) Oz talks about 'Revolution knocking at the door' with rich and powerfull being targets. Sounds Bane-ish, so I guess the city will be plagued by terrorist attacks (although not on a TDKR scale, I think). Zellerbachs (or whatever their name is) will probably have something to do with the press conference leak and/or shady past of Wayne's. Bats and Catwoman will forge an unlikely alliance - she'll probably do that in exchange for Bruce's help with the drive situation in Ep1. (that's definitely going to happen, since it's shown in ep2 teaser) Vicki/Gordon will figure out Batman's identity before the end. (hints made by TT are not very subtle...) The story is simply going through motions we know, despite its attempts to cover it up. Aaand it's going to use the same old trick of blaming the player for the stuff we can't control and are predetermined from the start. (shaking/not shaking Falcone's hand still results in news report about Waynes being implied as criminals...) Kind of like in GOT. I think people are getting tired of this and are either moving on or playing because of the sentiment towards TT. Look at it this way - if you take TWDS1 out of the picture (which, when it comes to choice and consequence, it's their best game) I believe TT would be in a far worse situation right now. A fanatstic story is what drew people towards their games. Now it seems that TT is settling around the good/average territory. That, in a story-driven game, may be problematic. I don't know, I can see this going one of two ways: 1: Telltale really commits to letting us shape Gotham and the villains Batman faces(to at least some degree. But, I honestly think Dent not becoming Two-Face might be a thng(though as I suggested, there's no option to really save someone, only a situation determines which villain you face... it's one or the other). I don't think Telltale will go too over the top with how much choices matter, but maybe a little more than in their other series' so far. Basically, Season One will allow us to shape the beginnings of what Telltale has described as their own Batman universe. 2: Pretty much what you said.. It'll take stuff from well known Batman movies/comics and our choices don't matter. I really hope it'll be the first thing, and honestly, I do have hope that that's the way they're headed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 5:02:24 GMT
And, honestly, I still don't get TWD S1 being on a pedestal. In my opinion, both Tales from the Borderlands and The Wolf Among Us are just as good in their own way. If we take Telltale's series' and line them up, then that means since TWD S1, we had TWD S2 and TWAU. TWAU is, in its own way, just as good as TWD S1. Then TTGOT and TFTB. TFTB was, in its own way, just as good as TWD S1. Then MC:SM and TWDM. One of those isn't awful.
So, that's at least 1 series that's been, in its own way, as good as TWD S1, for 2 of 3 line-ups of Telltale Series'.
I'm pretty confident that either Batman or TWD S3 will turn out to be another top tier Telltale Series. And honestly, I'm kind of rooting for Batman. I see a lot of promising stuff hinting at our choices maybe being able to shape both Batman's villains and allies in future, how Gotham views Bruce and Batman, and even change some things about the city itself, all of which sets a good foundation for a series that could even rival TWD if Telltale wants to go that route.
I don't know, all of that is my opinion, and I'm not saying anyone has to stop being cynical about Telltale, jus, I prefer to be more optimistic.
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Post by Tommy Angelo on Aug 10, 2016 6:09:21 GMT
And, honestly, I still don't get TWD S1 being on a pedestal. In my opinion, both Tales from the Borderlands and The Wolf Among Us are just as good in their own way. If we take Telltale's series' and line them up, then that means since TWD S1, we had TWD S2 and TWAU. TWAU is, in its own way, just as good as TWD S1. Then TTGOT and TFTB. TFTB was, in its own way, just as good as TWD S1. Then MC:SM and TWDM. One of those isn't awful. So, that's at least 1 series that's been, in its own way, as good as TWD S1, for 2 of 3 line-ups of Telltale Series'. I'm pretty confident that either Batman or TWD S3 will turn out to be another top tier Telltale Series. And honestly, I'm kind of rooting for Batman. I see a lot of promising stuff hinting at our choices maybe being able to shape both Batman's villains and allies in future, how Gotham views Bruce and Batman, and even change some things about the city itself, all of which sets a good foundation for a series that could even rival TWD if Telltale wants to go that route. I don't know, all of that is my opinion, and I'm not saying anyone has to stop being cynical about Telltale, jus, I prefer to be more optimistic. It's not me being cynical without reason. TWDS1 was their first try in choice-based game, so I sat they tried harder for the choices to matter and sell them as meaningful. What I meant is, literally take TWDS1 out of the picture. Telltale was a small company despite numerous games released. TWAU was in development as 'Fables', a point'n'click game in the same vein as Monkey Island/Sam and Max. If TT remained on that course, they'd still be a small company and Wolf would not sell as well as now. After TWD, they scrapped their original plans for Fables and changed it into a game know today. Remember the first trailers? The main selling point was that 'it's a game from the creators of TWD' - back then when it REALLY meant choices will impact the game. And now? You can look at playthroughs on YT w/ commentaries that say 'the game's awesome! But...' and list things like shaking a hand or who you'll give the evidence to will occur with the same outcome. Batman's more at fault because, while playing, you know these characters. You don't put Harvey Dent in a story and not make him a Two Face. Even Nolan promised not to do that, only to make it an 'A-HA!' moment in the movie. What's the problem in the game is that we're his ally from the start and will likely take a beating for it. Telltale is known for manufacturing situations we can't change and later pin the blame on the player - see Michonne. People might not feel like that, but I'm slowly starting to get tired of this. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 7:00:51 GMT
And, honestly, I still don't get TWD S1 being on a pedestal. In my opinion, both Tales from the Borderlands and The Wolf Among Us are just as good in their own way. If we take Telltale's series' and line them up, then that means since TWD S1, we had TWD S2 and TWAU. TWAU is, in its own way, just as good as TWD S1. Then TTGOT and TFTB. TFTB was, in its own way, just as good as TWD S1. Then MC:SM and TWDM. One of those isn't awful. I dunno, man. If you ask me, it breaks down like this: TWDS1: fantastic TWDS2: fucking garbage TWAU: meh TTGOT: not s2 bad, but generally meh TFTBL: better than s1 MC:SM: not even worth my time/worst project yet TWDM: worse than s2 When you look at it like that, they've made two good games, some okay one and a LOT of trash. I get the lack of enthusiasm. That being said, I'm actually excited for Batman. They've built the foundations of something good. More than what could be said about a lot of their other projects. This could still turn into TWDS2 all over again, but it could also be TWDS1 level if they play their cards right. Consider me hyped. I just don't have any strong opinions yet. Hey, that's not a first. The first episode of twd didn't leave me with strong impressions either. I'm excited to see how this one plays out, is what I'm saying. |
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Post by Niccc on Aug 10, 2016 7:01:47 GMT
Oh, and one more thing - I also have a feeling that those tickets will be wildly important later. There's just no way TT keeps showing them to us for no apparent reason. Lol am I the only one who ripped that shit up right in front of Alfred? Hilarious |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 16:06:15 GMT
And, honestly, I still don't get TWD S1 being on a pedestal. In my opinion, both Tales from the Borderlands and The Wolf Among Us are just as good in their own way. If we take Telltale's series' and line them up, then that means since TWD S1, we had TWD S2 and TWAU. TWAU is, in its own way, just as good as TWD S1. Then TTGOT and TFTB. TFTB was, in its own way, just as good as TWD S1. Then MC:SM and TWDM. One of those isn't awful. I dunno, man. If you ask me, it breaks down like this: TWDS1: fantastic TWDS2: fucking garbage TWAU: meh TTGOT: not s2 bad, but generally meh TFTBL: better than s1 MC:SM: not even worth my time/worst project yet TWDM: worse than s2 When you look at it like that, they've made two good games, some okay one and a LOT of trash. I get the lack of enthusiasm. That being said, I'm actually excited for Batman. They've built the foundations of something good. More than what could be said about a lot of their other projects. This could still turn into TWDS2 all over again, but it could also be TWDS1 level if they play their cards right. Consider me hyped. I just don't have any strong opinions yet. Hey, that's not a first. The first episode of twd didn't leave me with strong impressions either. I'm excited to see how this one plays out, is what I'm saying. Yeah, I really was just working off my own opinion. I'd list it more in a series of tiers. Top Tier: The Walking Dead: Season 1(and 400 Days)(a very emotional and fundamentally "human" story. It earns a lot of points for that), The Wolf Among Us(had two bad episodes, not a great cast(character wise) and choices weren't that significant, but I'd say the brilliant allegorical story, distinct art style, and just absolutely nailing the neo-noir genre makes up for that), Tales from the Borderlands(I see it as the same as TWD S1 but with a more comedic twist as opposed to being depressing) Good/Great Tier: The Walking Dead: Season Two(yeah, I still don't think it's garbage. It made some massive missteps and choices didn't matter at all, but it still had some grat moments), Game of Thrones: Season One(same as Season Two in my opinion) Okay tier: Minecraft: Story Mode(I'd say that $5 for a 2-hour, generally entertaining episode with pretty good production value is worth it. Especially considering that choices have more of an impact that in the Good/Great Tier series'. Problem is: It's minecraft, and there's just only so much you can do. It's not bad, and I think it's a solid piece of entertainment. Awful Tier: The Walking Dead: Michonne(absolute fucking garbage, only redeeming qualities are the music(licensed songs, the soundtrack is almost entirely re-used TWD tracks) and art-direction) So, I've got a different break down of Telltale's series'. So, I'm a little more optimistic. |
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Post by thatstoo2019man on Aug 10, 2016 17:35:04 GMT
 : twd s1, tftbl Not bad: got, batman(so far), twau, twd s2 Meh: michonne Cancer: Mein Kampf minecraft
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Post by Autobot Sonic Part II on Aug 10, 2016 17:57:22 GMT
If I had to list my favorite Telltale Games in order from greatest to least, here's what they'd be:
1. TFTBL
2. TWD S1
3. TWD S2
4. GOT S1
5. MCSM
6. TWAU
7. TWDM
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Post by Niccc on Aug 10, 2016 19:13:27 GMT
roses are head harambes in heaven george bush had advanced knowledge of 9/11
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Post by Tommy Angelo on Aug 10, 2016 19:17:54 GMT
roses are head harambes in heaven george bush had advanced knowledge of 9/11 I think we need to check whether DarkFox is dead and you've just become possesed by his spirit...?  |
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Post by Niccc on Aug 10, 2016 20:08:19 GMT
roses are head harambes in heaven george bush had advanced knowledge of 9/11 I think we need to check whether DarkFox is dead and you've just become possesed by his spirit...? No, but half the forum is just posting lists so I thought I would expose the ultimate conspiracy to the forum, because apparently crack's avatar is not enough, since nobody has mentioned it yet. |
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