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Post by Crooked Christa on Jul 2, 2016 4:21:00 GMT
All their episodes before Walking Dead were monthly - after Walking Dead, they prioritized revising episodes live over punctuality. However, Episodes 1-4 of Minecraft and all episodes of Michonne were delivered monthly so it's not entirely unprecedented for modern Telltale games either. All of Michonne's episodes were only an hour long each, I think I heard Minecraft is about the same. I don't want Batman to have 58 minute episodes. Minecraft's episodes were longer, and it was confirmed Batman would have episodes around 90-120 minutes long. I don't like how Michonne only had hour long episodes either, but that should not be the case for all monthly titles.
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Post by sos on Jul 2, 2016 6:23:54 GMT
Gotta think that the writing process for Batman will be a lot more challenging than Minecraft though. I mean, Minecraft is a game directed towards kids after all. I don't think the writing and creation is anywhere near as challenging as the other recent Telltale games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 13:52:46 GMT
Honestly, I don't think players ever really notice or care about fan feedback being factored in. I mean, aside from maybe Sarah's death in TWD S2, which could be argued was brought about by massive backlash from the fans, but we don't know. No one notices it, and I don't think many people care. And hell, since Telltale is trying to be more like a TV Network(which I honestly see as a good thing), why should they keep doing that? TV shows don't do that. They film a season, and the seasons airs. They consider fan feedback between seasons. That works fine. Telltale's been known for some pretty heavy rewrites between episodes, or suspected ones anyway, and in general(TWAU being a possible exception) these aren't good things. Seems likely they might be caused by this whole... live tweaking of the season to fan feedback.
I mean, the whole thing seems like a bad idea. Since when would it ever, in most cases, be considered a good idea to change something about the season in the middle of it because of fan feedback? Even if something really did need changing, it just cripples the cohesiveness of the whole season. They should really just scrap that. Change their model to making a season, premiering episodes monthly. Most fans won't mind/care about/know about the change, it keeps the seasons for each series more cohesive as a whole, and fans get episodes quicker. Just seems like there's only an upside to doing that. Happier fans, better stories.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 2, 2016 18:44:59 GMT
Honestly, I don't think players ever really notice or care about fan feedback being factored in. I mean, aside from maybe Sarah's death in TWD S2, which could be argued was brought about by massive backlash from the fans, but we don't know. No one notices it, and I don't think many people care. And hell, since Telltale is trying to be more like a TV Network(which I honestly see as a good thing), why should they keep doing that? TV shows don't do that. They film a season, and the seasons airs. They consider fan feedback between seasons. That works fine. Telltale's been known for some pretty heavy rewrites between episodes, or suspected ones anyway, and in general(TWAU being a possible exception) these aren't good things. Seems likely they might be caused by this whole... live tweaking of the season to fan feedback. I mean, the whole thing seems like a bad idea. Since when would it ever, in most cases, be considered a good idea to change something about the season in the middle of it because of fan feedback? Even if something really did need changing, it just cripples the cohesiveness of the whole season. They should really just scrap that. Change their model to making a season, premiering episodes monthly. Most fans won't mind/care about/know about the change, it keeps the seasons for each series more cohesive as a whole, and fans get episodes quicker. Just seems like there's only an upside to doing that. Happier fans, better stories. Yeah, they would probably be better off then second guessing themselves.
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Post by Crooked Christa on Jul 2, 2016 22:45:30 GMT
Didn't game files for Season 1 of Game of Thrones indicate they changed a fairly notable plot point from Episode 5 that I'm not going to name because of spoilers (but you probably know the one)? That sounds like somethings they changed due to fan feedback (from all the predictions on the forums being correct before they changed it), which would serve as a strong example of why sticking to their initial plot is a good idea.
Changes made in Season 1 of Walking Dead were meant to clarify a message they consistently worked towards, whereas for Wolf Among Us and Walking Dead Season 2 onward, they became too liberal with how they made changes and revisions to the story to the point where they were modifying the story instead of clarifying it.
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Post by sos on Jul 3, 2016 7:20:27 GMT
Telltale should stop listening to fan feedback entirely. No more changes, no more delays. They're the artists, they're the story-tellers, they're the directors. We are none of the above. These are their games. They should make them how they want to make them and tell the stories exactly the way they want to tell them. It's very cool that Telltale cares about their fan base as much as they do. But you know what's more important to these small studios than catering to their fans? Creating a concrete idea with a set beginning, middle and end and trusting that the fans will love it if it's made to the best of its ability.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 3, 2016 18:19:58 GMT
Didn't game files for Season 1 of Game of Thrones indicate they changed a fairly notable plot point from Episode 5 that I'm not going to name because of spoilers (but you probably know the one)? That sounds like somethings they changed due to fan feedback (from all the predictions on the forums being correct before they changed it), which would serve as a strong example of why sticking to their initial plot is a good idea. Changes made in Season 1 of Walking Dead were meant to clarify a message they consistently worked towards, whereas for Wolf Among Us and Walking Dead Season 2 onward, they became too liberal with how they made changes and revisions to the story to the point where they were modifying the story instead of clarifying it. Yeah, I loved Game of Thrones a lot, but it would have been better if they hadn't changed it.
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Post by Crooked Christa on Jul 7, 2016 1:08:32 GMT
Telltale sure loves their Greg Miller
Also, can we get a Batman subforum going now that the game is fairly close?
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Post by Niccc on Jul 7, 2016 1:17:45 GMT
Just fuckin release the episode already
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Post by Crooked Christa on Jul 7, 2016 1:42:35 GMT
Just fuckin release the episode already They are aiming for an August release, so it could be within the next month to month-and-a-half or so.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 8, 2016 15:00:54 GMT
Telltale sure loves their Greg Miller Also, can we get a Batman subforum going now that the game is fairly close? Believe me, I still haven't forgotten Playing Dead season 2 the shitning brought to you by Greg Miller from the highly respected IGN reviewer website.
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Post by Crooked Christa on Jul 8, 2016 18:38:53 GMT
I can't wait for less than three minutes of actual discussion, only for the rest of it to be dedicated to inside jokes, memes, and references Greg Miller makes about other stuff he is involved in, or how he is a big fan of Telltale/Batman/etc instead of letting the guests talk.
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Post by Zeruis on Jul 9, 2016 4:26:34 GMT
Off-topic, but how is Greg still related to Telltale?
Last I heard, he left IGN to produce his own show. Has Telltale not learned to let him go already?
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Post by sos on Jul 9, 2016 5:28:13 GMT
Judging by the one time he appeared as a Playing Dead season 2 guest, and by how into pop culture he is, Scott "Scotty P" Porter should host it.
DOWN WITH MILLER LITE, UP WITH A STRONG PORTER.
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Post by IDEK on Jul 10, 2016 13:04:47 GMT
pls no
we all know what porter will revive
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