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Post by Rock114 on Jul 8, 2015 18:38:26 GMT
See, this what I don't get about orange weapons. What makes those two guns so special? The 5,000+ damage for an assault rifle is pretty good, but the fire rate is atrocious. And the damage for the shotgun isn't very impressive. There are blue shotguns out there that have similar numbers and purple shotguns that have better accuracy and damage of like 1,500x17. Is it just like witnessing an eclipse, nothing else matters beyond rarity? Not attempting to be a smarmy cock, genuinely curious. One other thing and this is tougher to explain because I was only half-listening... loud playing environment distracting me and shit. I'm playing through TVHM in BL2 and I get to the point where Angel is trying to win you back after betraying Sanctuary. She's explaining how she's been doing Jack's bidding and manipulating people for a long time and spoke of how Jack fooled Lilith, Roland, etc. into opening the Vault in BL1. How does that work in the scheme of the BL universe? Certainly seemed like Lilith and Roland didn't know Jack in TPS and it seemed like Jack didn't know Lilith and Roland either. Maybe I'm missing something due to not playing BL1 and someone can fill me in. During BL1, Roland, Lilith and Co got the same messages from Angel that the BL2 Vault Hunters get over the course of the game. She guides them to the pieces of the Vault Key and intructs them where the Vault is and how to open it, which unleashes a monster of many tentacles that they then kill. Jack tricked them through Angel, the same way he tricked the second group of VHs into lowering Sanctuary's shields with the power core from Wilhelm.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 18:47:19 GMT
Honestly I don't pay attention to the story much. I normally just jump off a cliff or shoot bullets at SOS or N8
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Post by sos on Jul 8, 2015 18:53:59 GMT
See, this what I don't get about orange weapons. What makes those two guns so special? The 5,000+ damage for an assault rifle is pretty good, but the fire rate is atrocious. And the damage for the shotgun isn't very impressive. There are blue shotguns out there that have similar numbers and purple shotguns that have better accuracy and damage of like 1,500x17. Is it just like witnessing an eclipse, nothing else matters beyond rarity? Not attempting to be a smarmy cock, genuinely curious. One other thing and this is tougher to explain because I was only half-listening... loud playing environment distracting me and shit. I'm playing through TVHM in BL2 and I get to the point where Angel is trying to win you back after betraying Sanctuary. She's explaining how she's been doing Jack's bidding and manipulating people for a long time and spoke of how Jack fooled Lilith, Roland, etc. into opening the Vault in BL1. How does that work in the scheme of the BL universe? Certainly seemed like Lilith and Roland didn't know Jack in TPS and it seemed like Jack didn't know Lilith and Roland either. Maybe I'm missing something due to not playing BL1 and someone can fill me in. During BL1, Roland, Lilith and Co got the same messages from Angel that the BL2 Vault Hunters get over the course of the game. She guides them to the pieces of the Vault Key and intructs them where the Vault is and how to open it, which unleashes a monster of many tentacles that they then kill. Jack tricked them through Angel, the same way he tricked the second group of VHs into lowering Sanctuary's shields with the power core from Wilhelm. But wouldn't TPS have given some hint that Jack already knew Lilith and Roland, or were they just faceless Vault Hunters to him and only Angel knew them by face and name? Either way, I'm assuming that throwing Jack into story for BL1 was done in hindsight, right? Handsome Jack was a creation for BL2 that didn't exist prior to that game, but then the developers saw that he could fit right into the background of the story of BL1 and it would still make sense... even if he didn't exist from a creationary and technical standpoint then. Makes my head spin.
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Post by Rock114 on Jul 8, 2015 19:36:39 GMT
During BL1, Roland, Lilith and Co got the same messages from Angel that the BL2 Vault Hunters get over the course of the game. She guides them to the pieces of the Vault Key and intructs them where the Vault is and how to open it, which unleashes a monster of many tentacles that they then kill. Jack tricked them through Angel, the same way he tricked the second group of VHs into lowering Sanctuary's shields with the power core from Wilhelm. But wouldn't TPS have given some hint that Jack already knew Lilith and Roland, or were they just faceless Vault Hunters to him and only Angel knew them by face and name? Either way, I'm assuming that throwing Jack into story for BL1 was done in hindsight, right? Handsome Jack was a creation for BL2 that didn't exist prior to that game, but then the developers saw that he could fit right into the background of the story of BL1 and it would still make sense... even if he didn't exist from a creationary and technical standpoint then. Makes my head spin. Well, in TPS he did identify Roland and Lilith as Vault Hunters as soon as he saw them. Plus, as you said, they were probably faceless and nameless pawns to him he never directly made contact with himself. He probably didn't know very much about them at all until TPS, and they'd never met or even heard of Jack before then.
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Post by wakemeup on Jul 8, 2015 21:02:17 GMT
See, this what I don't get about orange weapons. What makes those two guns so special? The 5,000+ damage for an assault rifle is pretty good, but the fire rate is atrocious. And the damage for the shotgun isn't very impressive. There are blue shotguns out there that have similar numbers and purple shotguns that have better accuracy and damage of like 1,500x17. Is it just like witnessing an eclipse, nothing else matters beyond rarity? Not attempting to be a smarmy cock, genuinely curious. Dunno about the assault rifle, but the shotgun is pretty good, with extra fire damage. And it was literally first good shotgun I dropped entire time I was playing Krieg, who's shotgun oriented, so you can imagine how happy I was. Though, I dropped a slightly better corrosive shotgun from the dragons raid boss, so I just switch them depends on who am I fighting. But, the satisfaction from dropping a Legend is most important, even if you don't use it.
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Jul 9, 2015 2:31:49 GMT
See, this what I don't get about orange weapons. What makes those two guns so special? The 5,000+ damage for an assault rifle is pretty good, but the fire rate is atrocious. And the damage for the shotgun isn't very impressive. There are blue shotguns out there that have similar numbers and purple shotguns that have better accuracy and damage of like 1,500x17. Is it just like witnessing an eclipse, nothing else matters beyond rarity? Not attempting to be a smarmy cock, genuinely curious. Orange weapons certainly aren't always the best (some are honestly kinda shitty for being "legendary"), but a lot of them often have hidden special effects. The Conference Call is at base, a pretty good shotgun, with decent damage and a good fire rate. However, take note of the red text, which says "Let's just ping everyone at once." That means it'll fire the projectiles (5 of them in this case, doing 874 damage each), which upon impact, will split up into many more projectiles which do that same damage upon impact or after a certain distance. It also doesn't always consume ammo for every shot. The Kerblaster shots explode upon impact and release a child grenade, which also obviously explodes. C'mon, it's Torgue. There are also other legendaries where there's a hidden 1.5x damage multiplier, regenerative ammo, etc.
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Jul 9, 2015 14:11:19 GMT
Fooled around with more stuff, went waaaaaay overboard. First one's 11520 × 7200, second one's 5760 × 3600. And uh just a warning...I apparently crashed Brotato's browser with the first one. Southern Shelf Moxxi Probably gonna work on some effects later, maybe use a free roaming camera, etc. They can look a lot better/use some improvements, I think.
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Post by thatstoo2019man on Jul 9, 2015 14:15:54 GMT
Fooled around with more stuff, went waaaaaay overboard. First one's 11520 × 7200, second one's 5760 × 3600. And uh just a warning...I apparently crashed Brotato's browser with the first one. Southern Shelf Moxxi Probably gonna work on some effects later, maybe use a free roaming camera, etc. They can look a lot better/use some improvements, I think. scrubtato, it didn't even crash my phone browser
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Jul 9, 2015 14:18:35 GMT
Fooled around with more stuff, went waaaaaay overboard. First one's 11520 × 7200, second one's 5760 × 3600. And uh just a warning...I apparently crashed Brotato's browser with the first one. Southern Shelf Moxxi Probably gonna work on some effects later, maybe use a free roaming camera, etc. They can look a lot better/use some improvements, I think. scrubtato, it didn't even crash my phone browser scrubman, still has S4 Mini unless you upgraded then das coo
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Post by wakemeup on Jul 9, 2015 17:35:50 GMT
S4 mini? Lol loser
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 18:50:23 GMT
Wow I have a shitty PC and i opened that fine
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Post by Rock114 on Jul 9, 2015 23:27:45 GMT
Wow I have a shitty PC and i opened that fine Maybe his computer is powered by a potato. Comedy Gold.
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Post by sos on Jul 10, 2015 1:48:29 GMT
Got to Level 50 and it feels so gooooooooood.*
*it's actually super anticlimactic.
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Jul 10, 2015 13:02:02 GMT
More random screens, this time playing with a free roam camera and in-game downsampling, with some effects/tweaks and flares captured. If you think I am slowly killing my laptop, you are probably right. Dr. Zed's (4480 × 2520) Loader Bot (4480 × 2520) Random Surveyor (4480 × 2520) Overlook Sunrise (7680 × 4320, would not absolutely recommend with a laptop) Next on the list: fiddling with time of day tweaks and post-processing.
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Post by thatstoo2019man on Jul 10, 2015 13:02:53 GMT
5k krieg or go die pls
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