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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 20:56:19 GMT
I gotta say, I thought Aiden was really bland, he was like Batman if you zapped all personality out of him, and then there's the whole thing with the game trying to act like you/him are a hero, and yet on his personal vendetta to get revenge he kills more innocents than he saves. Also the part where you can mount over your dead nieces grave after an "emotional" cut scene was really dumb. I didn't find Aiden to be bland, and I didn't kill innocents. Also... I don't think the game ever really portrays Aiden as a hero. At best, he's an anti-hero, at worst, he's pure fucking evil. I found that the main story kind of leaned more towards anti-hero, but I never got the feeling that it in anyway was showing Aiden to be the hero. Also, I literally have no experience with Batman. Never watched any of the movies, read the comics, or played the games. And, the last thing isn't the game breaking your immersion, that's the player doing that. I never did silly shit like that, so I can say that, no, the game doesn't really break the immersion on it's own, you'd have to be doing that yourself, in which case, said person has no right to complain. I actually liked a lot of the more emotional scenes, and Aiden's interactions with other characters. To me, he felt like The Driver from Drive, but much more brutal, and with a lot more personality. And, the acting throughout the game is really good. One of my favorite scenes with Aiden is in the mission "Not the Pizza Guy". Also, the whole end of Act I. Some smallish spoilers for if you haven't finished it.
With the grave, it's not so much the fact you can do it, it's the fact that it literally is the first thing you see, anyway it's nothing major i just thought it was dumb. As for killing innocents, the main way to get away from police is causing a big ass crash with blockers or causing massive crashes with street lights, I mean they where awesome sure as shit but there's no way they didn't at least break a bone with that. As for portraying him as a hero, well I mean he shuts down a human trafficking operation and constantly stops muggings and murders as small side missions in free roam, seems pretty heroic to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:01:31 GMT
I didn't find Aiden to be bland, and I didn't kill innocents. Also... I don't think the game ever really portrays Aiden as a hero. At best, he's an anti-hero, at worst, he's pure fucking evil. I found that the main story kind of leaned more towards anti-hero, but I never got the feeling that it in anyway was showing Aiden to be the hero. Also, I literally have no experience with Batman. Never watched any of the movies, read the comics, or played the games.And, the last thing isn't the game breaking your immersion, that's the player doing that. I never did silly shit like that, so I can say that, no, the game doesn't really break the immersion on it's own, you'd have to be doing that yourself, in which case, said person has no right to complain. I actually liked a lot of the more emotional scenes, and Aiden's interactions with other characters. To me, he felt like The Driver from Drive, but much more brutal, and with a lot more personality. And, the acting throughout the game is really good. One of my favorite scenes with Aiden is in the mission "Not the Pizza Guy". Also, the whole end of Act I. If you're saying that Aiden Pearce is one of your favoritce characters ever, you'd fucking LOVE Batman. Basically, he's Aiden Pearce but actually well done. I get the feeling I wouldn't, simply because of the fact that the universe batman is a part of is a lot less grounded. I did watch a playthrough of Arkham City when it first came out(and, I just remembered, Arkham Origins), so that's more or less the only interaction I've had with anything concerning Batman. And I wasn't really impressed. But, if I get the chance to see any of the movies or something, I guess I'd re-evaluate my opinion. Right now, I think I've got the opposite opinion of most people. From watching the entirety of Arkham City and Arkham Origins, my view of Batman is that he's just a generic anti-hero with an uninteresting backstory surrounding by infinitely more interesting characters, whereas Aiden Pearce was actually a very interesting, complex character, surrounded by equally interesting characters and villains.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:02:23 GMT
I didn't find Aiden to be bland, and I didn't kill innocents. Also... I don't think the game ever really portrays Aiden as a hero. At best, he's an anti-hero, at worst, he's pure fucking evil. I found that the main story kind of leaned more towards anti-hero, but I never got the feeling that it in anyway was showing Aiden to be the hero. Also, I literally have no experience with Batman. Never watched any of the movies, read the comics, or played the games. And, the last thing isn't the game breaking your immersion, that's the player doing that. I never did silly shit like that, so I can say that, no, the game doesn't really break the immersion on it's own, you'd have to be doing that yourself, in which case, said person has no right to complain. I actually liked a lot of the more emotional scenes, and Aiden's interactions with other characters. To me, he felt like The Driver from Drive, but much more brutal, and with a lot more personality. And, the acting throughout the game is really good. One of my favorite scenes with Aiden is in the mission "Not the Pizza Guy". Also, the whole end of Act I. Some smallish spoilers for if you haven't finished it.
With the grave, it's not so much the fact you can do it, it's the fact that it literally is the first thing you see, anyway it's nothing major i just thought it was dumb. As for killing innocents, the main way to get away from police is causing a big ass crash with blockers or causing massive crashes with street lights, I mean they where awesome sure as shit but there's no way they didn't at least break a bone with that. As for portraying him as a hero, well I mean he shuts down a human trafficking operation and constantly stops muggings and murders as small side missions in free roam, seems pretty heroic to me. I'm on the second to last mission, I think. Just after killing Lucky Quinn So, would it be okay to click on that spoiler tag?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:04:07 GMT
If you're saying that Aiden Pearce is one of your favoritce characters ever, you'd fucking LOVE Batman. Basically, he's Aiden Pearce but actually well done. I get the feeling I wouldn't, simply because of the fact that the universe batman is a part of is a lot less grounded. I did watch a playthrough of Arkham City when it first came out(and, I just remembered, Arkham Origins), so that's more or less the only interaction I've had with anything concerning Batman. And I wasn't really impressed. But, if I get the chance to see any of the movies or something, I guess I'd re-evaluate my opinion. Right now, I think I've got the opposite opinion of most people. From watching the entirety of Arkham City and Arkham Origins, my view of Batman is that he's just a generic anti-hero with an uninteresting backstory surrounding by infinitely more interesting characters, whereas Aiden Pearce was actually a very interesting, complex character, surrounded by equally interesting characters and villains. Arkham City isn't exactly known for portraying Batman very well. Only the villains are interesting in those games. Watch the Christopher Nolan movies, or the one with Jack Nicholson in it. Those are good movies.
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Post by sos on Jan 29, 2015 21:05:12 GMT
Question: do you HAVE to break up Jody and what's his face in her apartment when playing as Aiden or can they eventually go somewhere beyond two souls sucking face?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:06:29 GMT
If you're saying that Aiden Pearce is one of your favoritce characters ever, you'd fucking LOVE Batman. Basically, he's Aiden Pearce but actually well done. I get the feeling I wouldn't, simply because of the fact that the universe batman is a part of is a lot less grounded. I did watch a playthrough of Arkham City when it first came out(and, I just remembered, Arkham Origins), so that's more or less the only interaction I've had with anything concerning Batman. And I wasn't really impressed. But, if I get the chance to see any of the movies or something, I guess I'd re-evaluate my opinion. Right now, I think I've got the opposite opinion of most people. From watching the entirety of Arkham City and Arkham Origins, my view of Batman is that he's just a generic anti-hero with an uninteresting backstory surrounding by infinitely more interesting characters, whereas Aiden Pearce was actually a very interesting, complex character, surrounded by equally interesting characters and villains. Go and Watch Batman The Dark Knight (Watch Batman Begins first if you could be bothered, although I only thought it was ok) When he's Batman rather than Bruce Wayne his voice acting is a bit BLARGH, other than that, I'd say it's a decent representation of Batman to someone whos never seen any of his shit. Also Batman his more of just a straight up hero than an anti hero, He refuses to use guns or kill and all the jazz.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:08:09 GMT
I get the feeling I wouldn't, simply because of the fact that the universe batman is a part of is a lot less grounded. I did watch a playthrough of Arkham City when it first came out(and, I just remembered, Arkham Origins), so that's more or less the only interaction I've had with anything concerning Batman. And I wasn't really impressed. But, if I get the chance to see any of the movies or something, I guess I'd re-evaluate my opinion. Right now, I think I've got the opposite opinion of most people. From watching the entirety of Arkham City and Arkham Origins, my view of Batman is that he's just a generic anti-hero with an uninteresting backstory surrounding by infinitely more interesting characters, whereas Aiden Pearce was actually a very interesting, complex character, surrounded by equally interesting characters and villains. Go and Watch Batman The Dark Knight (Watch Batman Begins first if you could be bothered, although I only thought it was ok) When he's Batman rather than Bruce Wayne his voice acting is a bit BLARGH, other than that, I'd say it's a decent representation of Batman to someone whos never seen any of his shit. Also Batman his more of just a straight up hero than an anti hero, He refuses to use guns or kill and all the jazz. Alright, I'm positive that my Uncle has those movies(he collects anything related to superheros) so I could borrow them from him at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:08:41 GMT
Some smallish spoilers for if you haven't finished it.
With the grave, it's not so much the fact you can do it, it's the fact that it literally is the first thing you see, anyway it's nothing major i just thought it was dumb. As for killing innocents, the main way to get away from police is causing a big ass crash with blockers or causing massive crashes with street lights, I mean they where awesome sure as shit but there's no way they didn't at least break a bone with that. As for portraying him as a hero, well I mean he shuts down a human trafficking operation and constantly stops muggings and murders as small side missions in free roam, seems pretty heroic to me. I'm on the second to last mission, I think. Just after killing Lucky Quinn So, would it be okay to click on that spoiler tag? Yeah you'd be fine, It's a pretty small spoiler anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:08:45 GMT
I get the feeling I wouldn't, simply because of the fact that the universe batman is a part of is a lot less grounded. I did watch a playthrough of Arkham City when it first came out(and, I just remembered, Arkham Origins), so that's more or less the only interaction I've had with anything concerning Batman. And I wasn't really impressed. But, if I get the chance to see any of the movies or something, I guess I'd re-evaluate my opinion. Right now, I think I've got the opposite opinion of most people. From watching the entirety of Arkham City and Arkham Origins, my view of Batman is that he's just a generic anti-hero with an uninteresting backstory surrounding by infinitely more interesting characters, whereas Aiden Pearce was actually a very interesting, complex character, surrounded by equally interesting characters and villains. Go and Watch Batman The Dark Knight (Watch Batman Begins first if you could be bothered, although I only thought it was ok) When he's Batman rather than Bruce Wayne his voice acting is a bit BLARGH, other than that, I'd say it's a decent representation of Batman to someone whos never seen any of his shit. Also Batman his more of just a straight up hero than an anti hero, He refuses to use guns or kill and all the jazz. Heheheheh. Those Collegehumor skits were amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:14:22 GMT
Go and Watch Batman The Dark Knight (Watch Batman Begins first if you could be bothered, although I only thought it was ok) When he's Batman rather than Bruce Wayne his voice acting is a bit BLARGH, other than that, I'd say it's a decent representation of Batman to someone whos never seen any of his shit. Also Batman his more of just a straight up hero than an anti hero, He refuses to use guns or kill and all the jazz. Heheheheh. Those Collegehumor skits were amazing. Lol never seen that before, that's pretty great.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:19:00 GMT
Heheheheh. Those Collegehumor skits were amazing. Lol never seen that before, that's pretty great. There's a bunch of them. That one just seemed relevant.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jan 29, 2015 21:22:24 GMT
Sadly that last part is not fully true, he has gotten a lot of awards for leading game developer and industry icon, and not just from France, ugh, I wish that wasn't true, because unlike, say, Ken Levine who actually praises TWD as one of the most emotional games ever, this guy pretty much shits on them by saying that emotion only comes from good graphics. Yeah, Cage is a bit of a plank, still though, one guy shouldn't put you off an entire studios games. Also they should replace David Cage with Nicholas Cage, I think he gets the tone of their games more than David Cage. Man if Nicholas Cage was in any of these games, it would instantly get better because hey, you would have know this is not serious, and for the record they have only made three games, the entire studio I mean, and they were all David Cage games, so I sadly have to avoid it, I don't hate the people, just the Ellen Page David Cage Rage Gage as I like to call him.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jan 29, 2015 21:24:18 GMT
I didn't find Aiden to be bland, and I didn't kill innocents. Also... I don't think the game ever really portrays Aiden as a hero. At best, he's an anti-hero, at worst, he's pure fucking evil. I found that the main story kind of leaned more towards anti-hero, but I never got the feeling that it in anyway was showing Aiden to be the hero. Also, I literally have no experience with Batman. Never watched any of the movies, read the comics, or played the games.And, the last thing isn't the game breaking your immersion, that's the player doing that. I never did silly shit like that, so I can say that, no, the game doesn't really break the immersion on it's own, you'd have to be doing that yourself, in which case, said person has no right to complain. I actually liked a lot of the more emotional scenes, and Aiden's interactions with other characters. To me, he felt like The Driver from Drive, but much more brutal, and with a lot more personality. And, the acting throughout the game is really good. One of my favorite scenes with Aiden is in the mission "Not the Pizza Guy". Also, the whole end of Act I. If you're saying that Aiden Pearce is one of your favoritce characters ever, you'd fucking LOVE Batman. Basically, he's Aiden Pearce but actually well done. I almost find it hard to believe you have not watched any Batman movie's, read any comics, or played any games.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jan 29, 2015 21:28:06 GMT
Question: do you HAVE to break up Jody and what's his face in her apartment when playing as Aiden or can they eventually go somewhere beyond two souls sucking face? Yes, the game won't let you do it otherwise, though it took a moment for me to even realize your question, I thought you meant why can't I break up with said fucker ever! Seriously I told him to fuck off each time and even picked death at the end to get away from him, and yet the game still forces me to be with him, what, the, fuck! If this was Bioware then the first time I told him to go to hell he would have never asked again! FUCKING HELL DAVID CAGE! You can't write female characters OR any romance of any description, Christ the romances in early Disney films (circa 1937-1966) were far more believable then whatever the hell you can do!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:31:15 GMT
I didn't find Aiden to be bland, and I didn't kill innocents. Also... I don't think the game ever really portrays Aiden as a hero. At best, he's an anti-hero, at worst, he's pure fucking evil. I found that the main story kind of leaned more towards anti-hero, but I never got the feeling that it in anyway was showing Aiden to be the hero. Also, I literally have no experience with Batman. Never watched any of the movies, read the comics, or played the games. And, the last thing isn't the game breaking your immersion, that's the player doing that. I never did silly shit like that, so I can say that, no, the game doesn't really break the immersion on it's own, you'd have to be doing that yourself, in which case, said person has no right to complain. I actually liked a lot of the more emotional scenes, and Aiden's interactions with other characters. To me, he felt like The Driver from Drive, but much more brutal, and with a lot more personality. And, the acting throughout the game is really good. One of my favorite scenes with Aiden is in the mission "Not the Pizza Guy". Also, the whole end of Act I. Some smallish spoilers for if you haven't finished it.
With the grave, it's not so much the fact you can do it, it's the fact that it literally is the first thing you see, anyway it's nothing major i just thought it was dumb. As for killing innocents, the main way to get away from police is causing a big ass crash with blockers or causing massive crashes with street lights, I mean they where awesome sure as shit but there's no way they didn't at least break a bone with that. As for portraying him as a hero, well I mean he shuts down a human trafficking operation and constantly stops muggings and murders as small side missions in free roam, seems pretty heroic to me. The main story mission never really portrays him as a good guy. And as for killing innocents, no one dies or is seriously injured unless the game gives you the message. I now, because it happened once when I used a steam pipe on the highway, so from that point on, I was a lot more careful with the steam pipes. My impression of Aiden by the end was that he was definitely an anti-hero. Good intentions, but not the best methods, and with a huge capacity for cruelty and violence.
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