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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 21:39:51 GMT
Alright, so...... I'm really not sure what to say about these books.
This is one of Stephen King's more popular books, along with The Stand, The Shining, The Green Mile, etc, but unlike 2 out of those 3, it's not a horror books, at least, not really.
To TRY and describe them.... It's like if someone took a Spaghetti Western movie, and decided they wanted to put that in a Fantasy world that may share some vague similarities to the world that J.R.R Tolkein created in Lord of the Rings, but not really, however, this is taking place while that Fantasy/Western world is ending, it's hinted at that there may be some sort of plot about this taking place in future, but then, turns out, it's actually a different world, one of many worlds in a series of infinite realities and existences, which at the center, lies a "Dark Tower", the home of, what could only be thought of as, God, or at least, someone in charge of controlling all of infinity.
Then, add Sci-Fi time travel, paradox's and multiple realities, all while still being somewhat grounded in this post-apocalyptic fantasy/western world. And that's maybe... 2.5 books in.
Basically, a mix of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly + The Lord of the Rings + Bioshock Infinite, although, these books finished in 2003, so the Bioshock thing is pure coincidence, or Ken Levine read these books. Either way, the comparison is obvious.
The series follows Roland Deschain of the line of Eld, the descendant of King Arthur Eld(Our world, "Keystone Earth" and "Mid-World" are tied together.... somehow), the last Gunslinger, from the now destroyed Kingdom of Gilead in New World. The world has since "moved on", as everything in New-World and Mid-World begins to die and become corrupt. For some unknown reasons, Roland is on a quest to reach the Dark Tower, the center of infinity, located at the very center of End-World.
I'm half-way through the third book at the moment, and I'm not quite sure what exactly to make of the series.... It's quite good, that's for sure, but it may just be the craziest fucking thing I've ever read... not a bad thing necessarily, but still.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Dec 14, 2014 22:15:55 GMT
Alright, so...... I'm really not sure what to say about these books. This is one of Stephen King's more popular books, along with The Stand, The Shining, The Green Mile, etc, but unlike 2 out of those 3, it's not a horror books, at least, not really. To TRY and describe them.... It's like if someone took a Spaghetti Western movie, and decided they wanted to put that in a Fantasy world that may share some vague similarities to the world that J.R.R Tolkein created in Lord of the Rings, but not really, however, this is taking place while that Fantasy/Western world is ending, it's hinted at that there may be some sort of plot about this taking place in future, but then, turns out, it's actually a different world, one of many worlds in a series of infinite realities and existences, which at the center, lies a "Dark Tower", the home of, what could only be thought of as, God, or at least, someone in charge of controlling all of infinity. Then, add Sci-Fi time travel, paradox's and multiple realities, all while still being somewhat grounded in this post-apocalyptic fantasy/western world. And that's maybe... 2.5 books in. Basically, a mix of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly + The Lord of the Rings + Bioshock Infinite, although, these books finished in 2003, so the Bioshock thing is pure coincidence, or Ken Levine read these books. Either way, the comparison is obvious. The series follows Roland Deschain of the line of Eld, the descendant of King Arthur Eld(Our world, "Keystone Earth" and "Mid-World" are tied together.... somehow), the last Gunslinger, from the now destroyed Kingdom of Gilead in New World. The world has since "moved on", as everything in New-World and Mid-World begins to die and become corrupt. For some unknown reasons, Roland is on a quest to reach the Dark Tower, the center of infinity, located at the very center of End-World. I'm half-way through the third book at the moment, and I'm not quite sure what exactly to make of the series.... It's quite good, that's for sure, but it may just be the craziest fucking thing I've ever read... not a bad thing necessarily, but still. Wouldn't shock me if Ken Levine read the books, a lot of things inspired both Bioshock games, and I do mean a lot, I mean everything from the Russian Revolution to Disney's Beauty and the Beast, yeah, wouldn't shock me at all if Dark Tower didn't influence it, sounds very interesting to say the least.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 22:36:12 GMT
Alright, so...... I'm really not sure what to say about these books. This is one of Stephen King's more popular books, along with The Stand, The Shining, The Green Mile, etc, but unlike 2 out of those 3, it's not a horror books, at least, not really. To TRY and describe them.... It's like if someone took a Spaghetti Western movie, and decided they wanted to put that in a Fantasy world that may share some vague similarities to the world that J.R.R Tolkein created in Lord of the Rings, but not really, however, this is taking place while that Fantasy/Western world is ending, it's hinted at that there may be some sort of plot about this taking place in future, but then, turns out, it's actually a different world, one of many worlds in a series of infinite realities and existences, which at the center, lies a "Dark Tower", the home of, what could only be thought of as, God, or at least, someone in charge of controlling all of infinity. Then, add Sci-Fi time travel, paradox's and multiple realities, all while still being somewhat grounded in this post-apocalyptic fantasy/western world. And that's maybe... 2.5 books in. Basically, a mix of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly + The Lord of the Rings + Bioshock Infinite, although, these books finished in 2003, so the Bioshock thing is pure coincidence, or Ken Levine read these books. Either way, the comparison is obvious. The series follows Roland Deschain of the line of Eld, the descendant of King Arthur Eld(Our world, "Keystone Earth" and "Mid-World" are tied together.... somehow), the last Gunslinger, from the now destroyed Kingdom of Gilead in New World. The world has since "moved on", as everything in New-World and Mid-World begins to die and become corrupt. For some unknown reasons, Roland is on a quest to reach the Dark Tower, the center of infinity, located at the very center of End-World. I'm half-way through the third book at the moment, and I'm not quite sure what exactly to make of the series.... It's quite good, that's for sure, but it may just be the craziest fucking thing I've ever read... not a bad thing necessarily, but still. Wouldn't shock me if Ken Levine read the books, a lot of things inspired both Bioshock games, and I do mean a lot, I mean everything from the Russian Revolution to Disney's Beauty and the Beast, yeah, wouldn't shock me at all if Dark Tower didn't influence it, sounds very interesting to say the least. I'm more talking specifically about Infinite, especially the ending to the first book, which had me thinking, "wait, this sounds suspiciously like the end of Bioshock Infinite". Also, the entire second book(not really any big spoilers) focuses on traveling into different timelines across several worlds, etc, etc, while the first book was more grounded in the Western/Fantasy/Post-apocalyptic Mid-World, aside from the aforementioned ending, and the third book is a weird mix of the two.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 22:40:42 GMT
Oh, and interestingly enough, there's been talk of Aaron Paul(Jesse from Breaking Bad) being cast as Roland for the Dark Tower movies in the works right now.
Also, there's a graphic novel series showing the events that come before the main books that I was interested in reading, but wanted to finish the novels first, and that's being made into a TV Series. The idea being that the plot concerning Roland's quest for the Dark Tower will be the movies, and at the ame time, people an see what happened before all that when Gilead was still around and all of Roland's friends were still alive.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Dec 15, 2014 1:03:59 GMT
Wouldn't shock me if Ken Levine read the books, a lot of things inspired both Bioshock games, and I do mean a lot, I mean everything from the Russian Revolution to Disney's Beauty and the Beast, yeah, wouldn't shock me at all if Dark Tower didn't influence it, sounds very interesting to say the least. I'm more talking specifically about Infinite, especially the ending to the first book, which had me thinking, "wait, this sounds suspiciously like the end of Bioshock Infinite". Also, the entire second book(not really any big spoilers) focuses on traveling into different timelines across several worlds, etc, etc, while the first book was more grounded in the Western/Fantasy/Post-apocalyptic Mid-World, aside from the aforementioned ending, and the third book is a weird mix of the two. Okay, I looked up out of pure curiosity, it seems Dark Tower did inspire Bioshock Infinite, but it's hardly the only one, Ken Levine mentioned several sources for the ending, this book was just one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 1:48:35 GMT
I'm more talking specifically about Infinite, especially the ending to the first book, which had me thinking, "wait, this sounds suspiciously like the end of Bioshock Infinite". Also, the entire second book(not really any big spoilers) focuses on traveling into different timelines across several worlds, etc, etc, while the first book was more grounded in the Western/Fantasy/Post-apocalyptic Mid-World, aside from the aforementioned ending, and the third book is a weird mix of the two. Okay, I looked up out of pure curiosity, it seems Dark Tower did inspire Bioshock Infinite, but it's hardly the only one, Ken Levine mentioned several sources for the ending, this book was just one of them. I looked it up as well, and I think I just spoiled the ending for myself. It seems as though the ending to the Dark Tower Series as a whole very much parallels the ending to Bioshock Infinite.... so.... yeah.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Dec 15, 2014 1:59:31 GMT
Okay, I looked up out of pure curiosity, it seems Dark Tower did inspire Bioshock Infinite, but it's hardly the only one, Ken Levine mentioned several sources for the ending, this book was just one of them. I looked it up as well, and I think I just spoiled the ending for myself. It seems as though the ending to the Dark Tower Series as a whole very much parallels the ending to Bioshock Infinite.... so.... yeah. Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to spoil the ending, sorry, I just wanted to say that this book and a lot of other works inspired Bioshock Infinite and it's ending, sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 2:11:56 GMT
I looked it up as well, and I think I just spoiled the ending for myself. It seems as though the ending to the Dark Tower Series as a whole very much parallels the ending to Bioshock Infinite.... so.... yeah. Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to spoil the ending, sorry, I just wanted to say that this book and a lot of other works inspired Bioshock Infinite and it's ending, sorry. Nah, it actually didn't spoil much. Aside from that Roland "finds himself". That really doesn't mean anything though. I've only got up to the fourth book, which a lot of people say is the best, so I'll read up to that, and then probably switch gears to read the A Song of Ice and Fire Series.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Dec 15, 2014 2:48:41 GMT
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to spoil the ending, sorry, I just wanted to say that this book and a lot of other works inspired Bioshock Infinite and it's ending, sorry. Nah, it actually didn't spoil much. Aside from that Roland "finds himself". That really doesn't mean anything though. I've only got up to the fourth book, which a lot of people say is the best, so I'll read up to that, and then probably switch gears to read the A Song of Ice and Fire Series. Probably a good idea, I finished the third book recently and can attest that it's the best book, though again I must warn you, they are incredibly long, the shortest is 600 pages, the longest 1000, so they will devour your time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 2:59:26 GMT
Nah, it actually didn't spoil much. Aside from that Roland "finds himself". That really doesn't mean anything though. I've only got up to the fourth book, which a lot of people say is the best, so I'll read up to that, and then probably switch gears to read the A Song of Ice and Fire Series. Probably a good idea, I finished the third book recently and can attest that it's the best book, though again I must warn you, they are incredibly long, the shortest is 600 pages, the longest 1000, so they will devour your time. The Stand was 1145 pages, or around that anyway. I'll be fine.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Dec 15, 2014 3:07:16 GMT
Probably a good idea, I finished the third book recently and can attest that it's the best book, though again I must warn you, they are incredibly long, the shortest is 600 pages, the longest 1000, so they will devour your time. The Stand was 1145 pages, or around that anyway. I'll be fine. Well now... yeah your right, you will be fine, not to mention the last 100 pages are generally index's that list every name of every house and all there banners... yeah you really need that information.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Dec 16, 2014 22:22:17 GMT
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to spoil the ending, sorry, I just wanted to say that this book and a lot of other works inspired Bioshock Infinite and it's ending, sorry. Nah, it actually didn't spoil much. Aside from that Roland "finds himself". That really doesn't mean anything though. I've only got up to the fourth book, which a lot of people say is the best, so I'll read up to that, and then probably switch gears to read the A Song of Ice and Fire Series. Oh, forgot to mention, but other inspirations for the ending beside Dark Tower were Fight Club and a Beautiful Mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 22:08:05 GMT
So, I started the fourth, and final book within my possession, "Wizard and Glass".
It takes a special kind of book where the second line of dialogue in the entire thing is just, "Fuck you", and they stump an all-knowing AI in a riddling contest with the "riddle", "Why did the dead baby cross the road?" (It was stapled to the chicken)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 22:10:55 GMT
I do like the references to "The Stand", as they actually end up in the world The Stand takes place in for a bit, and also, Randall Flagg(going by the name of Richard Fannin) directly mentions Trash-Can Man.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 2:26:42 GMT
I do find it funny that there's a character in these books named Eddie who was a drug addict and acts as comic relief a lot of the time(pretty much the same as Eddie from 400 Days).
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