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Post by Rock114 on Dec 25, 2014 18:31:10 GMT
Regular, and from what you said, I don't regret not buying Redux. ...okay, Ulman mission would probably be enough for me to get Redux, but there was only thestandard version where I was buying the game. The Ulman mission was everything I hoped it would be. After playing through LL, you could probably check out a playthrough of it on Youtube. To be clear, the rest of the DLC wasn't atrocious, it was just lackluster in comparison to the main story, the Ulman mission, and the spider lair mission. They're decently entertaining, but with very little reason to go through them again.
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Post by Rock114 on Dec 25, 2014 18:52:52 GMT
So, currently going through 2033 Redux in Ranger Hardcore mode, and I'm planning on doing the same with Last Light (And certain select DLC missions) after I complete 2033. It's not quite as hard as it seems, despite having absolutely no HUD, being as frail as a piece of wet paper towel, and having your available ammo and filter capacity cut in half. It's still pretty intense. One mistake will fuck you, especially if you're going up against human enemies.
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Post by wakemeup on Dec 25, 2014 23:16:14 GMT
You were right, Rock. Metro 2033 Artyom's VA<LL one. The last light one sound too old and tough I guess.
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Post by Rock114 on Dec 25, 2014 23:36:15 GMT
You were right, Rock. Metro 2033 Artyom's VA<LL one. The last light one sound too old and tough I guess. Yeah, his original VA really painted him as more of a regular, kind of meek young man who was in way over his head the minute he stepped out of the safety of his station. That vulnerability, even if it was just in his voice, helped make the journey a lot more tense because you knew he wasn't cut out for the kind of things he was doing in the tunnels.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 0:18:03 GMT
I'm still working on buying LL in some form.
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Post by wakemeup on Jan 8, 2015 18:30:19 GMT
All I'll say is, Last light was awesome. If you buy it, Pika, buy it with the Kham and Ulman mission DLC. I had to watch it on yt, but it looked great. Everything I could expect from it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 18:57:59 GMT
All I'll say is, Last light was awesome. If you buy it, Pika, buy it with the Kham and Ulman mission DLC. I had to watch it on yt, but it looked great. Everything I could expect from it. I'm getting Redux so I'll have the DLC
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jan 8, 2015 19:16:44 GMT
Is it true that the lighting got a bit screwed up in the Redux version? Also I finally got both 2033 and Last Light, wish me luck.
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Post by Rock114 on Jan 8, 2015 20:12:15 GMT
Spoilers for Last Light here. I haven't said it yet on this thread, so I feel I need to do it now. RIP Ulman. Your humor was one of the few bright spots in a dark, shitty world.
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Post by wakemeup on Jan 8, 2015 20:14:36 GMT
Spoilers for Last Light here. I haven't said it yet on this thread, so I feel I need to do it now. RIP Ulman. Your humor was one of the few bright spots in a dark, shitty world. Thanks for telling me to watch that DLC mission. When I was starting to get over his death, I had to be reminded of his humor and personality, making me sad again. I wish there was a way to save him.
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Post by Rock114 on Jan 8, 2015 20:25:33 GMT
Spoilers for Last Light here. I haven't said it yet on this thread, so I feel I need to do it now. RIP Ulman. Your humor was one of the few bright spots in a dark, shitty world. Thanks for telling me to watch that DLC mission. When I was starting to get over his death, I had to be reminded of his humor and personality, making me sad again. I wish there was a way to save him. I guess it wasn't in the cards. They should have at least had his death be onscreen or something. He got shafted hard in LL. Most of the characters from 2033 did, with the exception of Khan, but Ulman especially.
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Post by Rock114 on Jan 18, 2015 6:36:04 GMT
Me again. I've just had some thoughts that I kinda wanted to share about Khan. Some speculation if you will, and it's been bugging me for a while. Last Light spoilers and long ass post inbound... So. Khan. Am I the only one that thinks he isn't human? At least not a normal human. There's just something about him that sets him apart for me. It's more than being the only guy with an open mind in the Metro, it's how he's always there in just the nick of time. At least that's part of it. He just so happens to stumble on Artyom and Bourbon when Bourbon gets captured, and helps Artyom with the bandits. Then there's the business with the levels right after that, with the ghosts and anomalies. I think we'll all accept that Khan has the greatest understanding of all the weird, supernatural shit that happens in the series. But how? And why is he so certain that he'll meet Artyom again after they part just before Artyom arrives at Armory station, and how does he know that Artyom is in the Great Library searching for the D6 Documents and know exactly where he'll emerge? Miller did say that Khan told them where Artyom was, and that without him they probably wouldn't have been able to find Artyom.
Now for LL. Khan is the biggest returning character from the original game, and he gets even weirder. At the beginning of the game he gets into D6 to tell Artyom of the surviving Dark One, despite it being a classified base and not being allowed entry, as Ulman states. He's the only character in the game (Aside from Artyom, who was already connected to the Dark Ones) to try and make peace with the Dark Ones, which fits in with his philosopher persona, but why is he so sure that wiping them out was, as he puts it, "Humanity's greatest mistake?" We know it was because we've seen the good ending to the first game, but why the hell is Khan so sure? We don't see him again until after arriving at Oktybraskaya, where Lesnitsky released the bioweapon that wiped out the station. Who is the one who runs out to you and Anna just as you reach the cordon? Khan. Why is he there? Did he know what was going to happen, or did he just know that Artyom would be there? How would he know, if he did?
Then there's the River of Fate. A place that Khan claims nobody has ever returned from (Except apparently himself), that can supposedly, somehow, "Change your fate," and wash away the silt of the past. Those of us that have played the game know how freaky and trippy this little vacation to the Wonder River is, but, and I'm asking this a lot, how can Khan know of it? Even for a guy as smart, wise, and open minded as he is, it just strikes me as kind of strange that a single, normal man could have so much knowledge and seem as if he had been born with it. Then we have the endings. In one ending, everyone dies. That's pretty self explanatory for our mysterious friend. But in the "Redemption" ending? We know what happens to everyone in the battle. Ulman dies, Miller loses his legs, and Khan... vanishes. He's just gone.
Now on to my theory. It's fucking insane and nonsensical and stupid, but I can't disprove it to myself and its nagging at me. In the book (Apparently, as I haven't read it myself) Khan at one point claims to be the last incarnation of Genghis Khan himself. At first it sounds like he's crazy, but... what if it's kind of true? What if the Khan we know, the wise man wandering the Metro, actually is Genghis Khan, or some incarnation of him, seeking redemption for all the crimes he committed as a Mongol Warlord (I told you this was stupid)? Artyom's quest in Last Light is one of redemption, by trying to save the last of the Dark Ones and earn their forgiveness for wiping them out. And Khan is trying to earn his own forgiveness by helping Artyom save the Dark Ones because Artyom is the only one who can communicate with them. And if he succeeds, and Artyom earns his "Redemption," then Khan disappears in that ending because his own mission is over. He's finally earned his forgiveness from whatever higher power/force he was seeking it from. The reason he knows things he shouldn't, or couldn't, is because he is a supernatural entity himself. Even Artyom speculates that he could be a wizard or from a parallel dimension in his notes. Plus, doesn't he even look kind of like a Mongol in LL? Check out that beard braid.
Anyway, those are my incredibly stupid thoughts on Khan. If he's Genghis Khan on a mission for forgiveness or not, I'm convinced he's supernatural in some way. Strange shit happens all the time in the Metro, from siren doors that lure you to your doom to sewer rivers that can take you back in time to correct the mistakes/bad deeds you committed in the past. Something like this wouldn't be completely out of the question... or maybe I'm just thinking far, far, far too deeply into a guy that's only strange quality is having an open mind. That was a bit more than I thought I'd be saying...
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Post by wakemeup on Jan 18, 2015 10:11:26 GMT
Me again. I've just had some thoughts that I kinda wanted to share about Khan. Some speculation if you will, and it's been bugging me for a while. Last Light spoilers and long ass post inbound... So. Khan. Am I the only one that thinks he isn't human? At least not a normal human. There's just something about him that sets him apart for me. It's more than being the only guy with an open mind in the Metro, it's how he's always there in just the nick of time. At least that's part of it. He just so happens to stumble on Artyom and Bourbon when Bourbon gets captured, and helps Artyom with the bandits. Then there's the business with the levels right after that, with the ghosts and anomalies. I think we'll all accept that Khan has the greatest understanding of all the weird, supernatural shit that happens in the series. But how? And why is he so certain that he'll meet Artyom again after they part just before Artyom arrives at Armory station, and how does he know that Artyom is in the Great Library searching for the D6 Documents and know exactly where he'll emerge? Miller did say that Khan told them where Artyom was, and that without him they probably wouldn't have been able to find Artyom.
Now for LL. Khan is the biggest returning character from the original game, and he gets even weirder. At the beginning of the game he gets into D6 to tell Artyom of the surviving Dark One, despite it being a classified base and not being allowed entry, as Ulman states. He's the only character in the game (Aside from Artyom, who was already connected to the Dark Ones) to try and make peace with the Dark Ones, which fits in with his philosopher persona, but why is he so sure that wiping them out was, as he puts it, "Humanity's greatest mistake?" We know it was because we've seen the good ending to the first game, but why the hell is Khan so sure? We don't see him again until after arriving at Oktybraskaya, where Lesnitsky released the bioweapon that wiped out the station. Who is the one who runs out to you and Anna just as you reach the cordon? Khan. Why is he there? Did he know what was going to happen, or did he just know that Artyom would be there? How would he know, if he did?
Then there's the River of Fate. A place that Khan claims nobody has ever returned from (Except apparently himself), that can supposedly, somehow, "Change your fate," and wash away the silt of the past. Those of us that have played the game know how freaky and trippy this little vacation to the Wonder River is, but, and I'm asking this a lot, how can Khan know of it? Even for a guy as smart, wise, and open minded as he is, it just strikes me as kind of strange that a single, normal man could have so much knowledge and seem as if he had been born with it. Then we have the endings. In one ending, everyone dies. That's pretty self explanatory for our mysterious friend. But in the "Redemption" ending? We know what happens to everyone in the battle. Ulman dies, Miller loses his legs, and Khan... vanishes. He's just gone.
Now on to my theory. It's fucking insane and nonsensical and stupid, but I can't disprove it to myself and its nagging at me. In the book (Apparently, as I haven't read it myself) Khan at one point claims to be the last incarnation of Genghis Khan himself. At first it sounds like he's crazy, but... what if it's kind of true? What if the Khan we know, the wise man wandering the Metro, actually is Genghis Khan, or some incarnation of him, seeking redemption for all the crimes he committed as a Mongol Warlord (I told you this was stupid)? Artyom's quest in Last Light is one of redemption, by trying to save the last of the Dark Ones and earn their forgiveness for wiping them out. And Khan is trying to earn his own forgiveness by helping Artyom save the Dark Ones because Artyom is the only one who can communicate with them. And if he succeeds, and Artyom earns his "Redemption," then Khan disappears in that ending because his own mission is over. He's finally earned his forgiveness from whatever higher power/force he was seeking it from. The reason he knows things he shouldn't, or couldn't, is because he is a supernatural entity himself. Even Artyom speculates that he could be a wizard or from a parallel dimension in his notes. Plus, doesn't he even look kind of like a Mongol in LL? Check out that beard braid.
Anyway, those are my incredibly stupid thoughts on Khan. If he's Genghis Khan on a mission for forgiveness or not, I'm convinced he's supernatural in some way. Strange shit happens all the time in the Metro, from siren doors that lure you to your doom to sewer rivers that can take you back in time to correct the mistakes/bad deeds you committed in the past. Something like this wouldn't be completely out of the question... or maybe I'm just thinking far, far, far too deeply into a guy that's only strange quality is having an open mind. That was a bit more than I thought I'd be saying... Everything's possible in Metro, so I wouldn't rule this out. Even in 2033, I thought Khan was something more, during anomaly and ghosts mission. But all I could think of is he was half mutant, half human. Yeah, I prefer your theory. I bet he survives the bad LL ending too.
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Post by Rock114 on Jan 18, 2015 16:53:47 GMT
Me again. I've just had some thoughts that I kinda wanted to share about Khan. Some speculation if you will, and it's been bugging me for a while. Last Light spoilers and long ass post inbound... So. Khan. Am I the only one that thinks he isn't human? At least not a normal human. There's just something about him that sets him apart for me. It's more than being the only guy with an open mind in the Metro, it's how he's always there in just the nick of time. At least that's part of it. He just so happens to stumble on Artyom and Bourbon when Bourbon gets captured, and helps Artyom with the bandits. Then there's the business with the levels right after that, with the ghosts and anomalies. I think we'll all accept that Khan has the greatest understanding of all the weird, supernatural shit that happens in the series. But how? And why is he so certain that he'll meet Artyom again after they part just before Artyom arrives at Armory station, and how does he know that Artyom is in the Great Library searching for the D6 Documents and know exactly where he'll emerge? Miller did say that Khan told them where Artyom was, and that without him they probably wouldn't have been able to find Artyom.
Now for LL. Khan is the biggest returning character from the original game, and he gets even weirder. At the beginning of the game he gets into D6 to tell Artyom of the surviving Dark One, despite it being a classified base and not being allowed entry, as Ulman states. He's the only character in the game (Aside from Artyom, who was already connected to the Dark Ones) to try and make peace with the Dark Ones, which fits in with his philosopher persona, but why is he so sure that wiping them out was, as he puts it, "Humanity's greatest mistake?" We know it was because we've seen the good ending to the first game, but why the hell is Khan so sure? We don't see him again until after arriving at Oktybraskaya, where Lesnitsky released the bioweapon that wiped out the station. Who is the one who runs out to you and Anna just as you reach the cordon? Khan. Why is he there? Did he know what was going to happen, or did he just know that Artyom would be there? How would he know, if he did?
Then there's the River of Fate. A place that Khan claims nobody has ever returned from (Except apparently himself), that can supposedly, somehow, "Change your fate," and wash away the silt of the past. Those of us that have played the game know how freaky and trippy this little vacation to the Wonder River is, but, and I'm asking this a lot, how can Khan know of it? Even for a guy as smart, wise, and open minded as he is, it just strikes me as kind of strange that a single, normal man could have so much knowledge and seem as if he had been born with it. Then we have the endings. In one ending, everyone dies. That's pretty self explanatory for our mysterious friend. But in the "Redemption" ending? We know what happens to everyone in the battle. Ulman dies, Miller loses his legs, and Khan... vanishes. He's just gone.
Now on to my theory. It's fucking insane and nonsensical and stupid, but I can't disprove it to myself and its nagging at me. In the book (Apparently, as I haven't read it myself) Khan at one point claims to be the last incarnation of Genghis Khan himself. At first it sounds like he's crazy, but... what if it's kind of true? What if the Khan we know, the wise man wandering the Metro, actually is Genghis Khan, or some incarnation of him, seeking redemption for all the crimes he committed as a Mongol Warlord (I told you this was stupid)? Artyom's quest in Last Light is one of redemption, by trying to save the last of the Dark Ones and earn their forgiveness for wiping them out. And Khan is trying to earn his own forgiveness by helping Artyom save the Dark Ones because Artyom is the only one who can communicate with them. And if he succeeds, and Artyom earns his "Redemption," then Khan disappears in that ending because his own mission is over. He's finally earned his forgiveness from whatever higher power/force he was seeking it from. The reason he knows things he shouldn't, or couldn't, is because he is a supernatural entity himself. Even Artyom speculates that he could be a wizard or from a parallel dimension in his notes. Plus, doesn't he even look kind of like a Mongol in LL? Check out that beard braid.
Anyway, those are my incredibly stupid thoughts on Khan. If he's Genghis Khan on a mission for forgiveness or not, I'm convinced he's supernatural in some way. Strange shit happens all the time in the Metro, from siren doors that lure you to your doom to sewer rivers that can take you back in time to correct the mistakes/bad deeds you committed in the past. Something like this wouldn't be completely out of the question... or maybe I'm just thinking far, far, far too deeply into a guy that's only strange quality is having an open mind. That was a bit more than I thought I'd be saying... Everything's possible in Metro, so I wouldn't rule this out. Even in 2033, I thought Khan was something more, during anomaly and ghosts mission. But all I could think of is he was half mutant, half human. Yeah, I prefer your theory. I bet he survives the bad LL ending too. I wouldn't doubt that he "survives" that too. Both endings are technically redemption for Artyom, and thus for Khan as well. The only difference is that in the good ending, Artyom earns forgiveness before he's forced to sacrifice his life and D6.
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Post by wakemeup on Jan 18, 2015 17:27:20 GMT
Is ranger mode any good? It was included with my game, and I wanted to play it, but apparently I'm too dumb to get it working .
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