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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 23:05:24 GMT
Now that Season 2 is over, with five multiple endings, how do you think Telltale should continue to story in Season 3?
One option, a very likely one, would be to end Clem's story there, and start with a new cast and a new story, possibly with occasional references to the previous seasons. This is the easiest way of doing things, and the simplest.
Choosing one ending as canon(probably the one where Clem ends up alone) would be equally simple, and actually continue Clem's story, but it would make the other(better) endings pointless, and I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't be on board with this.
A much less likely option is that Telltale spends a lot of time, money, and effort making Season 3 tell three entirely different stories, probably with three separate paths(i.e if we left Kenny, we'll see him again soon, or if we stayed with Kenny, they all make it to Wellington soon, same with the Jane endings). This would be complicated, and there's a good chance that a lot of problems would arise, but I honestly think that if they made one writer the lead(*cough*Breckon*cough*), actually put the effort(and money) into making a game 3x the size of the previous Season, it could really work out, and finally deliver on the promise of making our choices matter in a bigger way than many of us would have imagined.
Ignoring our choices and just starting at one point, with Wellington/Howe's having fallen, and Kenny/Jane died, with only a few references to our choices in the last two Seasons.... Yeah, that would be the worst. Even if the rest of the season was awesome, that would kill the series. That'd be it, no way it'd work.
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Post by higgsboson2142 on Aug 29, 2014 1:28:57 GMT
I'd like to start out fresh again. New faces, new people. It's why I liked 400 Days so much!
And I firmly believe Clementine's story is over. To see where Jane or Kenny or AJ end up seems kind of pointless now. They all had a good sendoff. Especially Kenny.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 1:30:48 GMT
Start fresh. Clem's story is over.
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Post by Michael7123 on Aug 29, 2014 2:14:34 GMT
I can't see Clem's story ending here. In fact, if you really look at it, it's only just begun.
In this season, we've set her personality. She will be one of five different types of person.
- Jane/ accept Family: Starting a new community. Better than carver, that's for sure. A bit more hardened, but a good person. Instead of Jane's personality rubbing off on Clem, Clem's goodness rubs off on Jane. This is what Luke would have wanted from her.
- Jane/ deny family: She has basically become Carver. Not the blind psychopathic carver of episode three. I don't say like carver entirely as an insult. The one thing I respected about carver was that he had one, singular purpose: to protect the baby. That was always his priority, at least in episode two. Clem isn't just being a dick for the hell of it. This is what (episode two) Carver would have wanted.
- Going alone: You are Christa 2.0.
- Kenny/ stay in Wellington: Liked Kenny, but realized that he had lost it. This was the last chance he had to do something undeniably good in his life. She let him take that chance.
- Kenny/ Leave with him: Headstrong, might make bad decisions, but not an evil person. Not as far gone as Kenny (and I don't see Clem ever getting that close)
I really hope we see what's become of her in the next season. Start with new characters, sure. But let the game show you what Clementine has truly become.
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Post by higgsboson2142 on Aug 29, 2014 4:22:44 GMT
Also, I want to get back to that powering feeling of playing as an adult. I don't know, something was just different about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 5:03:52 GMT
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Post by wakemeup on Aug 29, 2014 7:52:28 GMT
I think it's over to Clem's story. I'd like a fresh story, with an adult protagonist and new characters. We wouldn't see Clem, Kenny or Jane again, but we should meet some other characters from season 1 and 2, like Lilly, Christa, Nate, Eddie, Mike, Arvo. Maybe even 400 days protagonists other than Bonnie, but I doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 7:58:42 GMT
Reboot with new cast.
Seriously - if TT wanted to continue Clem's storyline, they would create one ending (with maybe small alterations). Why else would they create so many endings clashing with each other? We all know that they are not known for branching storylines. They only did that because they knew that they won't pick up Season 3 where they left off, so they wanted to give players some freedom.
IF they would continue this story, this would require some time jump and Clem would still have to end up alone, because they won't create 3/5 different stories to begin with. If Clem ended up alone in S2 - easy, pick up where they left off. Otherwise it will look like this - Clem is alone and later explains that she was with: 1) a woman, Jane, but it didn't work out because 1a) they kept inviting people over and trust them too much, then there was a revolt and she had to escape this place, 1b) Jane was unbearable because she refused shelter to anyone, became a closed, yet manipulative person again and Clem didn't want to become like her; 2) a man, Kenny, but it didn't work out because 2a) she was travelling with him, but had to abandon him when he became more and more possessive and violent, 2a) he left her in Wellington and she felt like she was abandoned again, couldn't make relationships work there so after several months she left this place to look for him, but he was gone and nowhere to be found.
The problem? This would invalidate all the endings of S2 because - good or bad - they felt personal and were supposedely telling us who Clem had become. Going back to one universal storyline (because that MUST happen, as that's how TT's games work) would ruin them.
That's why I think it will be a reboot. We may see a new cast on the road and they would stumble upon Hardware Store or Wellington. Depending on the ending of S2, we might see Clem either in the store (she will yell at us 'go away!' and explain that a) they do not allow anyone inside, b) they used to allow people inside but they were dangerous, she had to kill them and they don't inivite anyone anymore) OR in Wellington (she will be the one at the main gate, not allowing us to get inside) OR somewhere in the wild alone/with Kenny, where she/they would threaten us to leave, because this is where they are staying etc. Only a slight reference, nothing more.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Aug 29, 2014 8:05:16 GMT
Not having the endings reconverge or choosing one ending as canon simply aren't options. Telltale could never do the former and they would never do the latter.
The problem with continuing on from the S2 endings is that the endings have different levels of closure, ranging from Clem reaching a seemingly perfect safe-haven in Wellington to complete open-endedness (*cough*bullshit*cough*) with the Alone endings. I want Clem's story to continue from the Alone endings but I don't want it to continue from the Wellington ending.
That puts us in a bit of a bind (which, as I've said, could have been avoided if they simply made the Alone endings into different versions of the Jane and Kenny endings depending on where you choose to go). I actually can't think of a good way to continue this OR not continue this. Goddamn it, Telltale.
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Aug 29, 2014 8:38:18 GMT
Really wish this season gave the option to actually carry on with core characters like the comics and TV series. But with these endings, Telltale would have to do some serious heavylifting to get that to work.
It has me upset, because I've grown so attached to Clem through her journey. They're gonna have to build that from the ground up again, create another scenario that'll have us feel a connection with the new protagonist(s). Just not sure I'm ready for that yet.
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Post by Master Psychic on Aug 29, 2014 8:58:22 GMT
Honestly, I think it's time for Clem's story to end.
The whole point of those 5 endings was to decide Clem's fate like who will your Clem end up with in the end? With Kenny? With Jane? Or alone with AJ?
I don't think Telltale can manage to make alternate intros for season 3 cause if they had the power to do so, then 400 Days would of actually mattered in this season, not give the 400 Days characters shitty cameos.
If they're gonna make Clem appear in the next season alone with AJ no matter what and being revealed that Kenny/Jane died offscreen and that Clem and AJ left Wellington/Howe's, it would pretty much mean that the 5 endings were pointless and it would also be a big middle finger to the Kenny and Jane fans.
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Post by Teacakes on Aug 29, 2014 9:17:41 GMT
New set of characters.
But as long as Telltale manage to somehow make Season 1 and 2 matter in season 3, I'll be happy.
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Post by Teacakes on Aug 29, 2014 9:19:14 GMT
Who will I side with now? Kenny's off somewhere either dead, on his own, or with Clementine waiting for a spot at Wellington.
Farewell, my friend.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:38:53 GMT
New set of characters. But as long as Telltale manage to somehow make Season 1 and 2 matter in season 3, I'll be happy. I truly hope that if TT intends to reference S1 or S2 in any way, they will not go with the '400 Days' route. Meaning, "a new protagonist/group stumbles upon Kenny's/Jane's corpse somewhere along the way" with only comment being 'poor fellow. I wonder what happened to him'.
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Post by Teacakes on Aug 29, 2014 9:46:39 GMT
No, not Kenny!
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