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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 15:13:19 GMT
10/10.
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Post by wakemeup on Aug 28, 2014 16:51:21 GMT
I know, opinions and all, but I have to ask. Seriously? Weren't there anything you disliked about the season? Season 1 was 9,5/10 to me, season 2 is fucking 4/10. As a whole, it feels terrible. But alright, your opinion, I don't judge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:18:23 GMT
I know, opinions and all, but I have to ask. Seriously? Weren't there anything you disliked about the season? Season 1 was 9,5/10 to me, season 2 is fucking 4/10. As a whole, it feels terrible. But alright, your opinion, I don't judge. Episode one was a little short, and a little... I don't know, just didn't feel great. Episode 2 I liked a lot. I wasn't a fan of them killing Carver in Episode 3, I really think he maybe should have lived to episode 4 at least, and of course, the 400 Days thing. And shoving Nick to the side. However, like I said, I mostly judge the episode just by the raw emotions they invoke. In that way, Episode 3 beats Episode 2, but on the other hand, yeah, there were some glaring flaws. I'd probably rate it a little less than Episode 2, thinking about it. Episode 4, as I've said previously, the way the reaction to Nick's death was handled. Sarah too, but to a lesser degree I think. All in all though, that was still a great episode in my mind. Episode 5, I have no complaints. Again, yeah, there were some big problems with this Season. Season One had some big problems too. I'm not going to pick it apart though, here's how I'm looking at it, in terms of how much I enjoyed it, in terms of raw emotion, and connected I felt to the characters, etc, etc. In that way, Season Two definitely wins, big time, despite it's flaws. Both Seasons I'd give a 10/10, then determining Season Two as being better(in my own opinion), but a certain percentage. In this case, Season 2 is 1.36 times better than Season 1. Yes, that is just a random number, but still. I think a big part of the problem is, like many people have said, the rotating writers. Rather than just set someone has lead writer and lead designer, they brought on a bunch of new writers as they expand their company, make larger games, and make more games. Someone then had the brilliant idea to throw these writers right into it with Season Two, but not with anyone guiding them, rather giving teams of writers their own episodes. This made for a lot of the problems, but as it is, I think they were all fantastic, just needed more direction. In Season 3, they should definitely just make Nick Breckon the lead writer, and have him handle the next Season however he wants. Whether that be starting anew(the path of least resistance as it were), or maybe trying to follow these 3-5(Looking at it as , Alone Ending, Kenny Endings(these could re-converge), and Jane endings(these could also re-converge), making it only three storylines to follow) in a much larger game, at least 3x the size of Season 2. More difficult, but it could work. Worst thing they could do is try and continue it from Season 2, and then not make Breckon the lead writer, allowing some other guy to mess it all up by having a time skip and making everything else irrelevant. I say other guy, but I don't think Breckon would do that.
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Post by wakemeup on Aug 28, 2014 17:21:04 GMT
Fair enough. Rotating writers were a huge problem. And I agree, Nick Breckon for the lead writer of season 3. He wasn't perfect, but was much better than the other writers. And he will have experience from writing season 2 now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:22:50 GMT
Fair enough. Rotating writers were a huge problem. And I agree, Nick Breckon for the lead writer of season 3. He wasn't perfect, but was much better than the other writers. And he will have experience from writing season 2 now. Then again, maybe even if we've got the rotating writers or whatever, it won't be as huge of a problem, all these new writers will get experience working on TFTB and GoT, they won't be as new to it. I do think it was a problem of them not understanding the choices thing and going from episode to episode.
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Post by wakemeup on Aug 28, 2014 17:33:23 GMT
We still have no idea how the GoT game will look like, but TFTB will require different writing than TWDG. I just want Nick, who now has experience with this series, to be the lead writer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:40:08 GMT
We still have no idea how the GoT game will look like, but TFTB will require different writing than TWDG. I just want Nick, who now has experience with this series, to be the lead writer. It's at least experience in writing the choices and interactive elements, if nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:43:10 GMT
Season 1 had no big problems, Zyphon. The only big problem was the cliffhanger and the sequel it inspired.
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Post by wakemeup on Aug 28, 2014 17:43:59 GMT
and the save glitch. Fuck this thing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:44:59 GMT
and the save glitch. Fuck this thing. Oh yeah. One big problem. Season 2 still has many.
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Post by wakemeup on Aug 28, 2014 17:45:27 GMT
I can't argue with that.
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Post by Raging_Blades on Aug 28, 2014 17:47:21 GMT
8/10 It was good but disappointing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:47:43 GMT
Also, Season 1 doesn't have a clearly good or bad ending, like Season 2 does.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:52:55 GMT
Season 1 had no big problems, Zyphon. The only big problem was the cliffhanger and the sequel it inspired. Episode 4. Didn't like it. Mostly design problems(the god awful puzzles and first person shooting bits), but still. Wasted potential of Chuck, though, I'm not too hard on this. Still, those complaining about Nick's E4 death should be equally pissed at this, mostly the same scenario. Chuck died essentially to prove a point, and in his case, it was actually even less involved to the story than with Nick. Train puzzle, though, still a design problem. Episode 1 had really weird pacing, and was a bit too slow in bits, especially for a premiere episode. It's probably my least favorite to replay. Next to Around Every Corner, for previously mentioned design problems(walking around in Crawford...... so boring). You can completely miss the conversation with Lilly in Episode 2...... At least, I did. Many, many times. Aside from all that, there are probably a few minor things I forgot to mention, I will agree that in terms of glaring flaws, Season Two has more. But for me, in terms of raw emotion, and things I've previously mentioned, I think Season 2 did a way better job. It balances out to the point where I still consider Season 2 being better than the first.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:57:34 GMT
Also, Season 1 doesn't have a clearly good or bad ending, like Season 2 does. I don't think Season 2 had clear good or bad endings. If you're talking in terms of choices, that is. Well, aside from turning the people away at Howe's Hardware, but still... Each ending sets you on a path. That sets you on a loner path, fully embracing the philosophy that Jane preached to Clem, even maybe going a little further. Or, that family matters more than anything else, I think this is shown best in the ending where you stay with Kenny. I don't think there are good or evil endings. I look down on the "loner" ending, but someone else may think it was smart, that you can't just trust people. etc, etc. Also, Season One had The Stranger, who was a good "villain", but, like the Crooked Man, was used to having a " JUDGING YOU" scene at the end. I think that's worse than good/bad endings, if you can look at them that way.
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