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Post by Teacakes on Aug 28, 2014 8:39:14 GMT
Sorry. Got a bit carried away while looking at Harp's avatar.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 8:41:54 GMT
Sorry. Got a bit carried away while looking at Harp's avatar.  |
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Post by DomeWing333 on Aug 28, 2014 8:44:01 GMT
Fuck season 2. Seriously, it is the worst thing ever. No. It's not. And that makes it infinitely more frustrating. If it were the worst thing ever, I could just write it off and forget about it. But no. It had good, genuine, compelling gems of story hidden in giant, glaring plot holes and buried beneath mounds of wasted potential. It wasn't terrible. It was disappointing. And that hurts so much more. |
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Post by Teacakes on Aug 28, 2014 8:45:04 GMT
Sorry. Got a bit carried away while looking at Harp's avatar. Beautiful. They should kiss |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 8:50:05 GMT
Fuck season 2. Seriously, it is the worst thing ever. No. It's not. And that makes it infinitely more frustrating. If it were the worst thing ever, I could just write it off and forget about it. But no. It had good, genuine, compelling gems of story hidden in giant, glaring plot holes and buried beneath mounds of wasted potential. It wasn't terrible. It was disappointing. And that hurts so much more. That's what makes it the worst thing ever. Something that never stood a chance to be good is bad. Something that stands in the shadow of a masterpiece and shits on the masterpiece's trophies is truly terrible. |
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Post by Teacakes on Aug 28, 2014 8:51:35 GMT
Well, that's sequels for you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 8:54:09 GMT
Well, that's sequels for you. Not exactly. That's bad sequels. Portal 2 doesn't shit on Portal, it just isn't as great. Left 4 Dead 2 doesn't insult the first, it just isn't as fun. |
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Aug 28, 2014 9:03:06 GMT
Eh, I mostly disagreed with him and used that sass line. Yeah, she's heartbroken after leaving someone she knew for a while, but who wouldn't be? I'm not seeing anywhere near the connection she had with Lee. As nice as she was to Lee, she was never as nice to him as the two of them are. She is sadder at Kenny leaving Crawford Wellington than at killing Lee. She cries at both, but she fucking begs Kenny, and hugs him. She didn't do none of that shit with Lee. She said please don't go, but that's it. Also, with the way Clem was characterized the whole season, SHE wouldn't be heartbroken leaving someone she knew for a while. She was with Christa an incomparable amount of time to Kenny. She didn't give a shit when she had to leave Christa. Sure, she wanted to find her. She wasn't sad or anything, though. She was uncaring. Really? She hugged Lee many times, especially after the stranger incident. She takes pretty much all of his words to heart. She dragged a grown man's body into shelter as a 9 year old, and was practically sobbing her eyes out at the prospect of killing him. The only reason they didn't have much close contact at the end is that he was about to turn, and that would've spelled danger. That's some pretty strong emotion for a 9 year old. As for Christa: she cared for Christa, but they weren't really attached. Christa probably resented Clem for indirectly causing Omid's death, and the two of them were probably on the run, all the time. Now with Kenny, that was someone who she traveled with from the very beginning, a link to happier times, and her last link to Lee. As you age, you grow more sentimental. She realizes the weight of how the apocalypse has changed everyone, and basically has to drop her whole past to start anew, which is what happens at the Wellington ending. What she was experiencing was a difficulty parting from the past. |
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Aug 28, 2014 9:07:09 GMT
No. It's not. And that makes it infinitely more frustrating. If it were the worst thing ever, I could just write it off and forget about it. But no. It had good, genuine, compelling gems of story hidden in giant, glaring plot holes and buried beneath mounds of wasted potential. It wasn't terrible. It was disappointing. And that hurts so much more. That's what makes it the worst thing ever. Something that never stood a chance to be good is bad. Something that stands in the shadow of a masterpiece and shits on the masterpiece's trophies is truly terrible. Everything starts out with the potential to be good. You've said before that you could write plot amendments that would make the season flow. Season 2 wasn't inherently bad as you think it is, it just had lots of wasted potential. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 9:08:26 GMT
As nice as she was to Lee, she was never as nice to him as the two of them are. She is sadder at Kenny leaving Crawford Wellington than at killing Lee. She cries at both, but she fucking begs Kenny, and hugs him. She didn't do none of that shit with Lee. She said please don't go, but that's it. Also, with the way Clem was characterized the whole season, SHE wouldn't be heartbroken leaving someone she knew for a while. She was with Christa an incomparable amount of time to Kenny. She didn't give a shit when she had to leave Christa. Sure, she wanted to find her. She wasn't sad or anything, though. She was uncaring. Really? She hugged Lee many times, especially after the stranger incident. She takes pretty much all of his words to heart. She dragged a grown man's body into shelter as a 9 year old, and was practically sobbing her eyes out at the prospect of killing him. The only reason they didn't have much close contact at the end is that he was about to turn, and that would've spelled danger. That's some pretty strong emotion for a 9 year old. As for Christa: she cared for Christa, but they weren't really attached. Christa probably resented Clem for indirectly causing Omid's death, and the two of them were probably on the run, all the time. Now with Kenny, that was someone who she traveled with from the very beginning, a link to happier times, and her last link to Lee. As you age, you grow more sentimental. She realizes the weight of how the apocalypse has changed everyone, and basically has to drop her whole past to start anew, which is what happens at the Wellington ending. What she was experiencing was a difficulty parting from the past. She did all of that but the dragging part for simply leaving Kenny for a month or two. Christa was also a link to Lee. Also, despite Christa's insane coldness in her one fucking minute of screentime sans Omid, it seemed that Christa was very attached. The way she lied to protect Clem, and the way she told Clem to run (if Clem tried to sneak away) indicates some level of respect and care. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 9:08:59 GMT
That's what makes it the worst thing ever. Something that never stood a chance to be good is bad. Something that stands in the shadow of a masterpiece and shits on the masterpiece's trophies is truly terrible. Everything starts out with the potential to be good. You've said before that you could write plot amendments that would make the season flow. Season 2 wasn't inherently bad as you think it is, it just had lots of wasted potential. I wasn't saying that Season 2 is one of those things.  |
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Aug 28, 2014 9:12:49 GMT
Really? She hugged Lee many times, especially after the stranger incident. She takes pretty much all of his words to heart. She dragged a grown man's body into shelter as a 9 year old, and was practically sobbing her eyes out at the prospect of killing him. The only reason they didn't have much close contact at the end is that he was about to turn, and that would've spelled danger. That's some pretty strong emotion for a 9 year old. As for Christa: she cared for Christa, but they weren't really attached. Christa probably resented Clem for indirectly causing Omid's death, and the two of them were probably on the run, all the time. Now with Kenny, that was someone who she traveled with from the very beginning, a link to happier times, and her last link to Lee. As you age, you grow more sentimental. She realizes the weight of how the apocalypse has changed everyone, and basically has to drop her whole past to start anew, which is what happens at the Wellington ending. What she was experiencing was a difficulty parting from the past. She did all of that but the dragging part for simply leaving Kenny for a month or two. Christa was also a link to Lee. Also, despite Christa's insane coldness in her one fucking minute of screentime sans Omid, it seemed that Christa was very attached. The way she lied to protect Clem, and the way she told Clem to run (if Clem tried to sneak away) indicates some level of respect and care. Cause she treats Clem as her child, but with tough love. Doesn't necessarily mean the feelings were reciprocated. And Kenny joined when the situation didn't seem to be complete and utter shit. She still retained her childhood tendencies back then. Christa appeared after Clem had lost some of her innocence already (Lilly's incidents, St. Johns, Duck, etc.). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 16:36:16 GMT
That one is better. That's the ending Clem's story deserves. Not the bullshit that I got. GOD, I'm still so pissed about that. I still haven't seen the ending where you leave Kenny and go to Wellington. In fact, I haven't seen any of the other endings yet. I still like the one where you go with Kenny because it's kind of what I've been wanting the whole Season, not just specifically with Kenny, but the idea that people, that family matter, maybe more than anything else now. I didn't want to go to Wellington if it meant leaving Kenny behind, and that would have been the case with most of the people in the group(except for Jane, fucking psychopath). Throughout episode 4, Jane keeps asking Clem how much these people really matter to her. For me, they, all of them, they meant everything. The ending where you leave with Kenny is setting you down on that path. Each ending puts Clem on a different path. The ending where you leave with Kenny was everything that I had been hoping for. Though, I will say that just the idea of leaving Kenny, the last family that clem has left, to finally be safe, also seems like a fantastic ending. Still not sure about the alone ending, or the Jane ones, but it seems most people say that the Kenny endings are best. Also... You got the alone ending, right? What happens, I'm still not clear on that. Why is it so bad? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 16:45:40 GMT
That one is better. That's the ending Clem's story deserves. Not the bullshit that I got. GOD, I'm still so pissed about that. I still haven't seen the ending where you leave Kenny and go to Wellington. In fact, I haven't seen any of the other endings yet. I still like the one where you go with Kenny because it's kind of what I've been wanting the whole Season, not just specifically with Kenny, but the idea that people, that family matter, maybe more than anything else now. I didn't want to go to Wellington if it meant leaving Kenny behind, and that would have been the case with most of the people in the group(except for Jane, fucking psychopath). Throughout episode 4, Jane keeps asking Clem how much these people really matter to her. For me, they, all of them, they meant everything. The ending where you leave with Kenny is setting you down on that path. Each ending puts Clem on a different path. The ending where you leave with Kenny was everything that I had been hoping for. Though, I will say that just the idea of leaving Kenny, the last family that clem has left, to finally be safe, also seems like a fantastic ending. Still not sure about the alone ending, or the Jane ones, but it seems most people say that the Kenny endings are best. Also... You got the alone ending, right? What happens, I'm still not clear on that. Why is it so bad? Clem and AJ walk for a second, until they come across a herd. Clementine finds a walker lying down away from the rest, so she kills and guts it. Then she smears herself and Alvie, and proceeds to walk through the horde. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 17:07:47 GMT
I still haven't seen the ending where you leave Kenny and go to Wellington. In fact, I haven't seen any of the other endings yet. I still like the one where you go with Kenny because it's kind of what I've been wanting the whole Season, not just specifically with Kenny, but the idea that people, that family matter, maybe more than anything else now. I didn't want to go to Wellington if it meant leaving Kenny behind, and that would have been the case with most of the people in the group(except for Jane, fucking psychopath). Throughout episode 4, Jane keeps asking Clem how much these people really matter to her. For me, they, all of them, they meant everything. The ending where you leave with Kenny is setting you down on that path. Each ending puts Clem on a different path. The ending where you leave with Kenny was everything that I had been hoping for. Though, I will say that just the idea of leaving Kenny, the last family that clem has left, to finally be safe, also seems like a fantastic ending. Still not sure about the alone ending, or the Jane ones, but it seems most people say that the Kenny endings are best. Also... You got the alone ending, right? What happens, I'm still not clear on that. Why is it so bad? Clem and AJ walk for a second, until they come across a herd. Clementine finds a walker lying down away from the rest, so she kills and guts it. Then she smears herself and Alvie, and proceeds to walk through the horde. ....Yeah, doesn't sound as good as the other endings. |
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