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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 21:40:30 GMT
This has become sort of a 'thing' ever since Episode 2. Kenny and Luke have sort of been competing and I'm wondering who you agree with more.
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+ Selfless. + Prefers to plan ahead and acknowledge problems and outcomes. - Disregard for his own health. - Tries too hard to be a perfect hero, which he isn't.
Kenny:
+ Leads the group more often than not. + Does what has to be done if he can do it, regardless of how he feels. - Rushes into plans and 'wings it'. - Mentally unstable.
DISCLAIMER: This isn't a 'who would you save?' question. It's more about whose ideals you respect more and who you find yourself agreeing with more in conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 21:45:28 GMT
I mostly agree with Kenny.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 28, 2014 21:47:53 GMT
This has become sort of a 'thing' ever since Episode 2. Kenny and Luke have sort of been competing and I'm wondering who you agree with more. Luke:+ Selfless. + Prefers to plan ahead and acknowledge problems and outcomes. - Disregard for his own health. - Tries too hard to be a perfect hero, which he isn't. Kenny: + Leads the group more often than not. + Does what has to be done if he can do it, regardless of how he feels. - Rushes into plans and 'wings it'. - Mentally unstable. DISCLAIMER: This isn't a 'who would you save?' question. It's more about whose ideals you respect more and who you find yourself agreeing with more in conversation. Umm... is both an option?
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Post by wakemeup on Jul 28, 2014 21:51:37 GMT
Eh, Luke, I guess. I agreed with him that it's better to wait for Rebecca to get better. He also generally tries put more effort into his plans. Kenny just decides to improvise a lot. And as Mike said "You don't plan to improvise".
Then again, I disagree with both of them a lot. Like during Carver's death scene. I didn't want to keep Carver alive, like Luke wanted, but I also would prefer to just shoot him in the head. What Kenny did was a bit too much.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 28, 2014 21:54:48 GMT
Eh, Luke, I guess. I agreed with him that it's better to wait for Rebecca to get better. He also generally tries put more effort into his plans. Kenny just decides to improvise a lot. And as Mike said "You don't plan to improvise". Then again, I disagree with both of them a lot. Like during Carver's death scene. I didn't want to keep Carver alive, like Luke wanted, but I also would prefer to just shoot him in the head. What Kenny did was a bit too much. True it was a bit much, but he did murder a close friend, nearly killed him, and put his whole group in constant danger, I mean come on, for every waking moment of his life, he will remember who did this to him, so I get why he is so angry, but yeah, a bit much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 21:54:57 GMT
This has become sort of a 'thing' ever since Episode 2. Kenny and Luke have sort of been competing and I'm wondering who you agree with more. Luke:+ Selfless. + Prefers to plan ahead and acknowledge problems and outcomes. - Disregard for his own health. - Tries too hard to be a perfect hero, which he isn't. Kenny: + Leads the group more often than not. + Does what has to be done if he can do it, regardless of how he feels. - Rushes into plans and 'wings it'. - Mentally unstable. DISCLAIMER: This isn't a 'who would you save?' question. It's more about whose ideals you respect more and who you find yourself agreeing with more in conversation. Umm... is both an option? Nope 
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Post by DomeWing333 on Jul 28, 2014 21:58:25 GMT
Honestly, at this point, I side with Kenny more. After he got his shit together I pretty much agreed with everything he said. Yes, Rebecca was in bad shape but she wasn't going to get better without food, barely any water, and the cold getting worse and worse. None of them were.
Luke has good plans but terrible instincts that cause him to lose track of his goals and make it difficult for him to follow through on them. Kenny's plans suck, but when push comes to shove, he takes care to try to preserve the things that matter to him.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 28, 2014 22:06:15 GMT
Honestly, at this point, I side with Kenny more. After he got his shit together I pretty much agreed with everything he said. Yes, Rebecca was in bad shape but she wasn't going to get better without food, barely any water, and the cold getting worse and worse. None of them were. Luke has good plans but terrible instincts that cause him to lose track of his goals and make it difficult for him to follow through on them. Kenny's plans suck, but when push comes to shove, he takes care to try to preserve the things that matter to him. True, he was right about Rebecca, she didn't get any better so he was right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 22:20:16 GMT
Honestly, at this point, I side with Kenny more. After he got his shit together I pretty much agreed with everything he said. Yes, Rebecca was in bad shape but she wasn't going to get better without food, barely any water, and the cold getting worse and worse. None of them were. Luke has good plans but terrible instincts that cause him to lose track of his goals and make it difficult for him to follow through on them. Kenny's plans suck, but when push comes to shove, he takes care to try to preserve the things that matter to him. Well if you told Mike to get the water, he had a shitload of it. Enough to last everybody for days. Even then, he still left half of it behind. I agree with the food thing a bit, but people can go a long time without food. Giving Rebecca a day to rest would increase her chances by a hell of a lot. You aren't gonna get anywhere when you're exhausted. Kenny still worked her to death, though. Not saying I agree with Luke. They're both idiots who lose sight of what's important, though in two different ways. Luke loses sight of what's important for the moment. Kenny loses sight of what's right, and only cares for himself, and he ends up getting some people killed because of it. Both are horrible in different ways. I wish Lee was here to smack both of them upside the head, and tell them to get their shit together.
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Post by wakemeup on Jul 28, 2014 22:26:37 GMT
Honestly, at this point, I side with Kenny more. After he got his shit together I pretty much agreed with everything he said. Yes, Rebecca was in bad shape but she wasn't going to get better without food, barely any water, and the cold getting worse and worse. None of them were. Luke has good plans but terrible instincts that cause him to lose track of his goals and make it difficult for him to follow through on them. Kenny's plans suck, but when push comes to shove, he takes care to try to preserve the things that matter to him. Not saying I agree with Luke. They're both idiots who lose sight of what's important, though in two different ways. Luke loses sight of what's important for the moment. Kenny loses sight of what's right, and only cares for himself, and he ends up getting some people killed because of it. Both are horrible in different ways. I wish Lee was here to smack both of them upside the head, and tell them to get their shit together. I agree, we need Christa back.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 22:30:38 GMT
I think the main issue is that none of the other group members are strong enough to contest them:
Clementine = kid. People automatically devalue her opinion because of her age.
Mike = Mike tries to have a go at Kenny but Kenny doesn't take him seriously enough or just ignores him. Here's hoping Mike gets to shout him down because of his recklessness.
Bonnie = Just like with Carver, Bonnie will agree with whoever's in charge. It's not something she can help.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jul 28, 2014 22:32:29 GMT
Your right, Bonnie does not seem to go against Kenny or Luke.
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Post by Rock114 on Jul 28, 2014 22:35:39 GMT
I agree with Pete.
But in seriousness, I suppose I agreed with Kenny more during this Episode. Then again, I feel safer around Luke because Kenny is probably gonna snap or something and most of his plans are just the definition of stupid.
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Post by wakemeup on Jul 28, 2014 22:38:25 GMT
I think the main issue is that none of the other group members are strong enough to contest them: Clementine = kid. People automatically devalue her opinion because of her age. Mike = Mike tries to have a go at Kenny but Kenny doesn't take him seriously enough or just ignores him. Here's hoping Mike gets to shout him down because of his recklessness. Bonnie = Just like with Carver, Bonnie will agree with whoever's in charge. It's not something she can help. That''s true. Also, a reason why I want to play as an adult in season 3. I miss the Lee days, when his opinion in the group really mattered. I would really like to see Christa coming back in episode 5, and just taking charge of the group, taking care of Luke and Kenny's bullshit. What I hate is, the most likely scenario for episode 5, is Bonnie and Mike dying, leaving Clem only with the baby and those two guys. We'd just have to watch them fighting all the time, without an option to stop it. Because Clem is a still a kid, even though she's a better survivor than most of the adults. I'm just getting real tired of their shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 22:38:53 GMT
Luke,because the obvious.
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