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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 21:34:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 1:35:54 GMT
Well, I guess if you know a guy who knows a guy, then you get it today. So, my review of Issue 9: What Lurks Within, will be here right now. As usual, split into non-spoiler and then spoiler. So, I shouldn't have to praise the art and writing, suffice to say, it's still really fucking good. Another more action-focused issue, but also one that gives us a few partial answers.... and for every answer, it gives us a whole new set of questions. The big picture of what's happening is no clearer, but a few details are being revealed to us, and as they say, the devil's in the details. I'm hoping by the end of this arc, we'll have enough little scraps of information on small details to at the very least start assembling this jigsaw puzzle that is the big picture of Outcast... A much more important issue than the last, leaves the readers on tenterhooks... To be honest, there really isn't much I can say about this particular issue without spoiling it. So, on with the spoiler tags. Color me confused, I've got theories to make and terms to unravel galore. The Merge? Shit... Well, I really don't think this issue gave a whole lot in the way of clear answers, I'll probably keep my theories in a separate post.
Sherry's exorcism was another fine example of the talent in this book. Nothing that blew me out of the water, but a landmark for Kyle, at least. These demons obviously want to hurt Kyle anyway they can, and perhaps weakening his mind is part of that. Joshua said a lot of the same that Sherry did, even taunting him. But this time, Kyle didn't take the bait. But last time, he did. I get a feeling that with the next few issues, we'll be seeing more of just what kind of man Kyle is...
Interesting that Kyle's tears cast out the demon... and far more effectively than his touch, violence, or his blood. Seems like God is on their side, and he values remorse for past sins more than he does violence or suffering. I still really do like how much of a desperate struggle all of the exorcisms have been so far.
And as for Sherry... I'm guessing that she's only in a coma, or perhaps unconscious, not dead. Just like Sarah is. The fact that it happened twice, and it's not clear that Sarah's coma wasn't caused by Kyle hitting her... It seems like there's more to that as well. And perhaps, there's some way they can wake Sherry and Sarah up... More questions... I get the feeling we'll be seeing more of this in the third arc, since based on the covers... well, I think I know where this is going right now.
Looking forward to next months issue!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 1:50:00 GMT
Theories: Seems as if the demons were happy to escape from... hell, I suppose? I mean, why wouldn't they be. But, perhaps these aren't demons at all, but damned souls? I mean, why would demons want to escape? It definitely seemed more like an escape based on what Sidney and Milfred were talking about.
And this "merge"... obviously they need Kyle for it, Sherry confirmed that much. They need "his light", the thing isn't him that burns them, casts them out. I... really don't know what this could mean. Also, more of the coughing up black stuff... no clue what the means, or why it happened when Milfred... sucked it out of Sidney? I really don't know...
At a completely random guess, "The Merge" is Sidney and co. wanting to release all the damned souls of hell onto Earth... but that doesn't seem in line with some things they said. Sidney asked Milfred is she would have stayed, knowing that she won't make it to the merge... so, presumably, the merge is only affects the demons/damned souls on earth? Hmm.....
And the comas... Well, assuming Sherry isn't dead, the comas... I'm going to assume that since Kyle didn't hit Sherry, Sarah's coma is only because of the exorcism, not him hitting her. But... why? Kyle hit Sarah, but his tears fell on Sherry, so no connection there... And Sherry and Sarah seem unconnected, too. Sarah was Kyle's mother, and Sherry was a stranger. One thing I might have thought was that maybe Sidney was holding them still? But... no, I don't think that's it.
More questions than answers. One thing I'm actually writing in about, is if the black stuff going form one to another person is the demons sucking something out of Kyle, or sending something into him... Not only is it bothering me, but it changes everything.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 1:51:41 GMT
I'm honestly impressed that it took this long for the first anti-religious nut to write in a letter. Oh boy... he flat out accused Outcast of being religious propaganda, and basically said that all religion is evil, atheists are always better people than anyone who believes in any religion, if God exists then he is evil, etc, etc, etc.
*sigh*
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 8:30:42 GMT
We'll talk about all of it when the second Paperback is out and I'm able to catch up, Zyphon. Looking forward to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 18:54:15 GMT
Cool, so two promo images for the TV Show have been released, and there's a trailer coming up on the 11th. I really like the poster, but the variant cover with Patrick Fugit I just don't like for some reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 19:49:36 GMT
So, my "review" of Issue 10: A Weakness Exposed As always, the art in this series is incredible, that’s not something I have to keep mentioning, but I really want to point out the coloring. Specifically, the use of colors to kind of set a tone, makes sense fade or pop. It just works really well, and it’s something that I haven’t seen anyone point out outside of maybe one person talking about Volume 1. Anyway, I’m also a big fan of how the dynamic and the relationship between Kyle and Anderson is changing and evolving with pretty much every issue. I think their differences and their motives and the thoughts they hold about what’s going on being explored more each issue is something that’s lending a surprising amount of depth to both characters with relatively little time. Just small conversations(length wise, anyway). A moment that was sort of an eventuality since the beginning of this series happens this issue, and Kirkman handles it pretty well. It feels natural and real, and that’s something that I hope it continues to exceed at. For as great as the exorcism scenes and all the darker stuff is, this series is also really great with just… conversations between people. I’ll say this right here, Kyle and Anderson have more depth and complexity to them after 10 issues than most characters of The Walking Dead after 100 or so issues. And they feel more human real than those in the TWD Comics do. As well as that, it feels like it’s building something. This was definitely one of the slower issues, but that’s something I like about Outcast, it can slow done, but it almost never feels like it’s stopped. The story keeps moving along at it’s own very deliberate pace, and I really like that. I’m willing to bet that the last two issues in this arc with turn things up a notch. Something that’s interesting is that this is the first time we’ve really seen the aftermath of one of these exorcisms. I mean, we got a page or two after Joshua’s, and we had that flashback to Sarah in “Receive Your Mark”, but this issue does look closely to the aftermath of an exorcism, and it’s something that’s actually really nice to see. Well, not “nice”, but, you know. As a reader, it was interesting to see this. Now we’re entering spoiler territory, so if you don’t want to be spoiled for the issue, don’t read past this point: I have a feeling that Sherry will be important later… But right now, a very important question is brought up; why did she become catatonic after the exorcism. Right now, there’s only been four successful exorcisms that the series has shown or talked about: Sarah, Allison, Joshua, and now Sherry. Two of those worked and the victims recovered, two didn’t.
With the ones who recovered, Allison and Joshua, it had happened fairly recently. With Allison, less than day, with Joshua, only a few days. Presumably they didn’t fall into a catatonic state because the demon had only been there for a little while, it did have a very strong hold, or maybe hadn’t done much damage.
With Sarah and Sherry, it was a little while before the exorcism. With Sherry, six months. With Sarah, several years.
I think the reason Sarah and Sherry fell into a catatonic state after their exorcisms definitely has something to do with the length… but I’m wondering if there’s anyway that they can recover, or anyway that Kyle can exorcise these demons without harming the host…. I really don’t have any ideas about that, but I’m sure we’ll get some answer at some point in the future.
I find the idea that Sidney has this sort of net of informants terrifying… But at the same time, it’s nice to see that he isn’t really all powerful or all knowing. Some how, I get the idea that he isn’t actually “The Devil”. A very powerful demon? Yes. Satan himself? Eh… maybe not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 22:02:31 GMT
The trailer for the Outcast TV Series:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 23:24:58 GMT
The covers are just phenomenal.
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Post by Autobot Sonic on Jul 15, 2015 21:35:47 GMT
Just got Volume 1: Holy shit this is good! Kyle seems like such a boss person. My favorite part was when he and his cop brother-in-law beat up Donnie. Any idea when Volume 2 comes out?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 23:03:28 GMT
Just got Volume 1: Holy shit this is good! Kyle seems like such a boss person. My favorite part was when he and his cop brother-in-law beat up Donnie. Any idea when Volume 2 comes out? They've been a little off with the release of the individual issues. That's why there's two this month and there weren't any last month. If there aren't any more delays, then Volume 2: A Vast and Unending Ruin, should be out sometime in August or September. I loved that part, too. I really didn't see that coming, I thought Kyle was going to get arrested or something. It was really funny how he just joined in beating the shit out of Donnie.
Though, I think my favorite scene from Volume one still had to be the attempted exorcism of Blake Morrow. That and the opening scene are the two scenes I really want to see them nail with some panel-to-TV magic when the show airs.
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Post by Autobot Sonic on Jul 15, 2015 23:10:44 GMT
Just got Volume 1: Holy shit this is good! Kyle seems like such a boss person. My favorite part was when he and his cop brother-in-law beat up Donnie. Any idea when Volume 2 comes out? They've been a little off with the release of the individual issues. That's why there's two this month and there weren't any last month. If there aren't any more delays, then Volume 2: A Vast and Unending Ruin, should be out sometime in August or September. I loved that part, too. I really didn't see that coming, I thought Kyle was going to get arrested or something. It was really funny how he just joined in beating the shit out of Donnie.
Though, I think my favorite scene from Volume one still had to be the attempted exorcism of Blake Morrow. That and the opening scene are the two scenes I really want to see them nail with some panel-to-TV magic when the show airs. Yeah, the scene with Blake was my second favorite. First time reading through the volume I remember reading one panel where Giles was talking, and I paused for a good ten seconds thinking to myself "Wait, that's Zyphon's avatar isn't it?" I can tell why he's (Probably) your favorite character. Glad to see a religious character that actually breaks the "good guy" stereotype.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 23:24:19 GMT
They've been a little off with the release of the individual issues. That's why there's two this month and there weren't any last month. If there aren't any more delays, then Volume 2: A Vast and Unending Ruin, should be out sometime in August or September. I loved that part, too. I really didn't see that coming, I thought Kyle was going to get arrested or something. It was really funny how he just joined in beating the shit out of Donnie.
Though, I think my favorite scene from Volume one still had to be the attempted exorcism of Blake Morrow. That and the opening scene are the two scenes I really want to see them nail with some panel-to-TV magic when the show airs. Yeah, the scene with Blake was my second favorite. First time reading through the volume I remember reading one panel where Giles was talking, and I paused for a good ten seconds thinking to myself "Wait, that's Zyphon's avatar isn't it?" I can tell why he's (Probably) your favorite character. Glad to see a religious character that actually breaks the "good guy" stereotype. The Reverend's name is Anderson. Giles is actually the Police Chief, one of his poker buddies. I think he's being portrayed by an actor from The Wire on the TV Series(Giles, not Anderson. Anderson is being played by some British actor, Phillip Glenister). I looked it up, Reg E. Cathy, who was Norman Wilson on The Wire, is Chief Giles in Outcast. And yeah, Anderson is my favorite character. I really love his speeches(or I guess they'd be monologues?) and how he breaks the cliches and stereotypes that religious figures in exorcism stories always fit. And I like how even though he has his own personal demons, he's still determined to do what he thinks is right. I mostly feel pity for Kyle, and I almost kind of hate him a little. He's only doing all of this because he wants answers, he doesn't care about doing the right thing or stopping these demons. There's a moment that will be in the second Volume that kind of talks about one of the other things I hate about Kyle. Still, he is, at this point, my second favorite. I mean, there's not very many other characters. which I honestly think is a good thing, because Kirkman has managed to make the few major characters very compelling in just a few issues by keeping a focus on such a small cast. I prefer that to the bloated cast of TWD right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 18:38:10 GMT
Okay, so Autobot Sonic and @aldimon . I have a quick question for you, something that's just a little thing I've been trying to figure out... Do you think Sidney is actually The Devil/Satan, or just another, more powerful demon?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 23:55:58 GMT
A theory from my tumblr page for Outcast, outcast-fandom.tumblr.com Spoilers for Issue 8: A Vast and Unending Ruin: Okay, so ever since I read A Vast and Unending Ruin, I’ve had this idea floating around in my head that maybe the creatures possessing people aren’t demons. At least, not all of them.
The first thing that made me think of this was when Mildred said something along the lines of “A day here is worth a thousand there”. My first thought in response to that was why demons would want to escape hell. Of course, there could be a reason for that, but there are other things, too…
Anderson said that demons are natural tricksters, and that they’re interested in corrupting souls, not murdering people. Both of those things are probably true, yet any “demon” we’ve seen as shown the opposite.
It seems likely that what Joshua, Blake, and Sherry said to Kyle about him being an Outcast and that they need him are true, since Sidney does call him Outcast, and says something that suggests they need Kyle in Issue 2.
Also, none of the supposed “demons” have shown any interest in corrupting souls. Allison tried to kill Amber, and Blake really did kill Terry. Mildred, Brian, and Sherry were just kind of hanging around, while the only harm Joshua did was to his host body(should I really be referring to the “demons” by the names of their host bodies?). Sarah did abuse Kyle, but I don’t see that as her trying to corrupt him.
Of course, I’m not sure if what Anderson said it true. I suppose I do have one question, and that’s if we saw everyone that Kyle and Anderson talked to in Issue 8. If none of the exorcisms worked, then I’d be inclined to say that he doesn’t know anything, but if at least some people were successfully exorcised, and we only saw those who weren’t in Issue 8, then I think Anderson probably knows what he’s doing, but that the things they’re dealing with aren’t actually demons.
Anyway, if they aren’t demons, then I think I have a pretty good idea of what they are. Damned Souls. People who went to hell, but who found a way out, and are now awaiting “The Merge”…. whatever that is.
I feel pretty confident about this theory… but I guess I’ll have to just wait and see. I will say that it would be pretty cool, if this theory is right, for Kyle and Anderson to run across an actual demon, and Kyle’s ‘powers’ have no effect on it, and that’s when they start to maybe question things a little more.
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