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Post by Teacakes on Feb 2, 2014 9:19:55 GMT
Um... Dude, I already responded to that. I know, it's just funny.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 9:20:32 GMT
Um... Dude, I already responded to that. I know, it's just funny. Yeah, that is a pretty cool scene.
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Post by Teacakes on Feb 2, 2014 9:21:42 GMT
Agreed.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Feb 2, 2014 9:37:25 GMT
Because Taboos are bullshit, number one. I'm not saying we should all eat human meat, but it's not as bad as threatening someone. Don't get me wrong, human meat is evil, but only for how it was harvested. That meat was already there. Taboos are bullshit to you. In this case, we can assume that it matters quite a bit to the person being tricked into breaking a taboo. Imagine tricking a Hassidic Jew or Muslim into eating pork or a hardcore vegan into eating meat. It's super fucked up, man.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 9:42:57 GMT
Because Taboos are bullshit, number one. I'm not saying we should all eat human meat, but it's not as bad as threatening someone. Don't get me wrong, human meat is evil, but only for how it was harvested. That meat was already there. Taboos are bullshit to you. In this case, we can assume that it matters quite a bit to the person being tricked into breaking a taboo. Imagine tricking a Hassidic Jew or Muslim into eating pork or a hardcore vegan into eating meat. It's super fucked up, man. In the zombie apocalypse? I'm not so sure.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Feb 2, 2014 9:45:42 GMT
Then why is blackmailing such a big deal in the zombie apocalypse?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 9:50:44 GMT
Because blackmailing never lost its meaning. Taboo is social. Social rules don't exist the same way in the zombie fucking apocalypse as actual threats do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 10:08:05 GMT
You can't say you hate SEASON 2, you can say you hate episode one of it though.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Feb 2, 2014 10:10:53 GMT
What special meaning does blackmailing have that hasn't been assigned to it by society? All Clem did was reveal knowledge that she had and then hinted at what she could do with that knowledge. Objectively speaking, what's so wrong about that?
And as I said, the prohibition on cannibalism might not be as strong of a social rule to you, but for the characters involved it certainly is and that's what matters here. In both cases, there is no physical threat being made. In one case, a character is tricked into doing something that he finds physically revolting and immoral. In the other case, a character is made to feel somewhat more anxious about a secret that she's been keeping. I would say that the harm being done in the first case is far greater than the harm being done in the the second case.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 10:14:09 GMT
You can't say you hate SEASON 2, you can say you hate episode one of it though. That's true. I'd still like Season 2 if Episode 7 fixes my issues with it. Though I doubt it will.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 10:18:31 GMT
What special meaning does blackmailing have that hasn't been assigned to it by society? All Clem did was reveal knowledge that she had and then hinted at what she could do with that knowledge. Objectively speaking, what's so wrong about that? And as I said, the prohibition on cannibalism might not be as strong of a social rule to you, but for the characters involved it certainly is and that's what matters here. In both cases, there is no physical threat being made. In one case, a character is tricked into doing something that he finds physically revolting and immoral. In the other case, a character is made to feel somewhat more anxious about a secret that she's been keeping. I would say that the harm being done in the first case is far greater than the harm being done in the the second case. The fact that she's threatening someone. Notice, I said they don't exist in the same way. Not that they don't exist. I still think it's terrible and awful that they cut off Mark's legs and fed them to them, but I don't feel as strongly about Larry, because Lee tried to inform him, hell, you could even say "you're eating human meat," and I'm fairly sure that Larry would still eat. You're understating the second bit. Quite a bit. Let's include, "that he was informed was that action."
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Post by DomeWing333 on Feb 2, 2014 10:35:44 GMT
If a bully is picking on me and I threaten to tell the teacher, which would get him suspended, have I done something wrong? And no, the "eat up, Larry" only works if you make no mention of the fact that it was human meat.
No matter how you state it, having someone commit an act they consider to be deeply disgusting is worse than what Clem did. By far.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 10:44:54 GMT
If a bully is picking on me and I threaten to tell the teacher, which would get him suspended, have I done something wrong? And no, the "eat up, Larry" only works if you make no mention of the fact that it was human meat. No matter how you state it, having someone commit an act they consider to be deeply disgusting is worse than what Clem did. By far. No, because in most cases, the bully doesn't care about school like a husband cares for his wife. Or in this case, a wife for her husband. Who knows. Alvin might be the last thing Rebecca (I'm so tired I almost wrote Clementine instead of Rebecca... Fuck me) has. Other than the baby, of course. Because one thing that's constant with humans is their need for some interaction to occur. Most of the people who don't have any interaction, or don't like any of it have a disorder. And even the ones that don't usually start talking to objects. Sorry if I'm rambling a bit, but as mentioned, I'm really fucking tired. Taking away a mental need is far worse than doing something immoral. No. Not really.
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Post by DomeWing333 on Feb 2, 2014 11:04:27 GMT
Clem didn't take away anyone's mental need. Lee did get someone to eat human meat. The threat of harm is not as bad as actual harm. If Rebecca cares for her husband more than than she wants to get her group to abandon a wounded child, Clem's not going to do anything (she might not do anything anyways but I guess we'll see). Lee never gave Larry any warning of what he was going to do. He just did it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 11:07:28 GMT
Clem didn't take away anyone's mental need. Lee did get someone to eat human meat. The threat of harm is not as bad as actual harm. If Rebecca cares for her husband more than than she wants to get her group to abandon a wounded child, Clem's not going to do anything (she might not do anything anyways but I guess we'll see). Lee never gave Larry any warning of what he was going to do. He just did it. She didn't take Alvin away. Not yet. But holding it over someone's head is worse in a lot of ways.
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