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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 18:39:49 GMT
Due to how the discussion in Ep5 thread turned out, I decided to do this to find out how's your opinion on the game before the finale.
I'm always calculating the average of all episodes when it comes to me. Turns out it's 6,2, so ~~6/10 from me. [ (7+4+6+6+8)/5 ]
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Aug 4, 2015 18:52:58 GMT
At the moment I would say its a high 9, we shall see what the last episode brings us. Could make it a 10, or it could be the worst thing ever and kill the entire season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 19:02:37 GMT
Iron From Ice: 8.5/10 The Lost Lords: 9.5/10 The Sword in the Darkness: 9/10 Sons of Winter: 8/10 A Nest of Vipers: 7.5/10 Overall: 8.5/10
Might be wishful thinking but maybe we can actually have some discussion in this thread that isn't limited to 'dis gaem shit' & 'lis bettar'
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Aug 4, 2015 19:04:40 GMT
Well I would probably go, 9 or 9.5, 10, 10, 10, and was going to be a 7, but became a 9 only because of the final scene.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 19:06:12 GMT
'dis gaem shit' & 'lis bettar'While I agree with your post, I must ask - when did 'LiS is better' campaign occured? It's likely that I didn't notice it because I'm not here as often as I used to, but I didn't see anything like that in GOT threads. Also: I didn't play LiS and don't really want to - something in this game (when I saw the first trailer, screenshots and synopsis) is throwing me off, kind of like Minecraft - but I can't exactly tell what it is. No offense to anyone who likes LiS.
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Post by Rock114 on Aug 4, 2015 20:07:44 GMT
Iron From Ice: 8.5/10 The Lost Lords: 9.5/10 The Sword in the Darkness: 9/10 Sons of Winter: 8/10 A Nest of Vipers: 7.5/10 Overall: 8.5/10Might be wishful thinking but maybe we can actually have some discussion in this thread that isn't limited to 'dis gaem shit' & 'lis bettar'Have some faith, bruh. We'll make sure this doesn't turn into the Episode 5 thread.
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Post by Rock114 on Aug 4, 2015 20:25:31 GMT
I'd have to give it a 6/10. I don't hate the game and I'll admit I might not be cutting it as much slack as I would if I were a fan of the show, but there's an issue which really throws me off. Every time the player gets ahead or makes a small gain the game just takes it away and you end up worse off than you were before no matter what choice you pick. Tyrion is about to give you the Ironwood decree to save your house? Shit, everyone thinks he murdered the King. Now they're gonna murder YOU unless you Solid Snake your way to the decree and get it. Try as hard as you can as Gared to not kill Britt and honor your vows? He dies anyway and everyone wants to kill you for defending yourself, forcing you to desert. Finally get some soldiers to help expel Gryff and take back Ironrath? Ramsay tells them to fuck off by using his plot armor and now you have no one. Still trying to use Gryff to trade back for Ryon? The traitor released him, get bent. Asher shows up with an "Army" of pit fighters? You walk into an ambush and everyone dies, fuck you. And that's even if the traitor told you about it beforehand, so you walk into the ambush knowing that it's an ambush and either Rodrik or Asher has to die anyway.
Every time you make progress and take one step forward the game seems to go out of its way to throw you three steps back. I don't like that. Looking back this issue is what made me stop caring for the characters, because the way the game is going they're all doomed at this rate. There's not really any hope. Maybe the finale can somehow find a way to un-fuck the Forresters but short of a Deus ex Machina I can't see that happening
That being said, I do like some of the characters even if I'm not particularly attached to them. Finn (RIP), Royland, Beskha, Rodrik, and Asher I find to be good and likable characters. If I were to be sad about a character's death it would be one of those five (Excepting Finn because of his terrible death).
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Aug 4, 2015 21:00:41 GMT
'dis gaem shit' & 'lis bettar'While I agree with your post, I must ask - when did 'LiS is better' campaign occured? It's likely that I didn't notice it because I'm not here as often as I used to, but I didn't see anything like that in GOT threads. Also: I didn't play LiS and don't really want to - something in this game (when I saw the first trailer, screenshots and synopsis) is throwing me off, kind of like Minecraft - but I can't exactly tell what it is. No offense to anyone who likes LiS. I can't even answer that question, it just popped up out of nowhere, and I really find it irritating.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Aug 4, 2015 21:03:30 GMT
I'd have to give it a 6/10. I don't hate the game and I'll admit I might not be cutting it as much slack as I would if I were a fan of the show, but there's an issue which really throws me off. Every time the player gets ahead or makes a small gain the game just takes it away and you end up worse off than you were before no matter what choice you pick. Tyrion is about to give you the Ironwood decree to save your house? Shit, everyone thinks he murdered the King. Now they're gonna murder YOU unless you Solid Snake your way to the decree and get it. Try as hard as you can as Gared to not kill Britt and honor your vows? He dies anyway and everyone wants to kill you for defending yourself, forcing you to desert. Finally get some soldiers to help expel Gryff and take back Ironrath? Ramsay tells them to fuck off by using his plot armor and now you have no one. Still trying to use Gryff to trade back for Ryon? The traitor released him, get bent. Asher shows up with an "Army" of pit fighters? You walk into an ambush and everyone dies, fuck you. And that's even if the traitor told you about it beforehand, so you walk into the ambush knowing that it's an ambush and either Rodrik or Asher has to die anyway. Every time you make progress and take one step forward the game seems to go out of its way to throw you three steps back. I don't like that. Looking back this issue is what made me stop caring for the characters, because the way the game is going they're all doomed at this rate. There's not really any hope. Maybe the finale can somehow find a way to un-fuck the Forresters but short of a Deus ex Machina I can't see that happening That being said, I do like some of the characters even if I'm not particularly attached to them. Finn (RIP), Royland, Beskha, Rodrik, and Asher I find to be good and likable characters. If I were to be sad about a character's death it would be one of those five (Excepting Finn because of his terrible death). To be fair, I see what you mean, the the show and books are somewhat like that at times. Just when a good thing happens, bad things happen and instantly nullify the result. Also I'm pretty sure most hardcore GOT fans already figure it ends with everyone dying, I don't because I am an optimistic person, but for the most part, what you said is the generally agreed upon ending of the series. So I get what you mean fully, but if you were a fan of the series, maybe it look better. That, and the fact the game doesn't spell out things from the show also is a major reason you should know the source material first hand.
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Post by Rock114 on Aug 4, 2015 21:10:28 GMT
I'd have to give it a 6/10. I don't hate the game and I'll admit I might not be cutting it as much slack as I would if I were a fan of the show, but there's an issue which really throws me off. Every time the player gets ahead or makes a small gain the game just takes it away and you end up worse off than you were before no matter what choice you pick. Tyrion is about to give you the Ironwood decree to save your house? Shit, everyone thinks he murdered the King. Now they're gonna murder YOU unless you Solid Snake your way to the decree and get it. Try as hard as you can as Gared to not kill Britt and honor your vows? He dies anyway and everyone wants to kill you for defending yourself, forcing you to desert. Finally get some soldiers to help expel Gryff and take back Ironrath? Ramsay tells them to fuck off by using his plot armor and now you have no one. Still trying to use Gryff to trade back for Ryon? The traitor released him, get bent. Asher shows up with an "Army" of pit fighters? You walk into an ambush and everyone dies, fuck you. And that's even if the traitor told you about it beforehand, so you walk into the ambush knowing that it's an ambush and either Rodrik or Asher has to die anyway. Every time you make progress and take one step forward the game seems to go out of its way to throw you three steps back. I don't like that. Looking back this issue is what made me stop caring for the characters, because the way the game is going they're all doomed at this rate. There's not really any hope. Maybe the finale can somehow find a way to un-fuck the Forresters but short of a Deus ex Machina I can't see that happening That being said, I do like some of the characters even if I'm not particularly attached to them. Finn (RIP), Royland, Beskha, Rodrik, and Asher I find to be good and likable characters. If I were to be sad about a character's death it would be one of those five (Excepting Finn because of his terrible death). To be fair, I see what you mean, the the show and books are somewhat like that at times. Just when a good thing happens, bad things happen and instantly nullify the result. Also I'm pretty sure most hardcore GOT fans already figure it ends with everyone dying, I don't because I am an optimistic person, but for the most part, what you said is the generally agreed upon ending of the series. So I get what you mean fully, but if you were a fan of the series, maybe it look better. That, and the fact the game doesn't spell out things from the show also is a major reason you should know the source material first hand. If "Everyone dies" really is the end then this game will probably be my last brush with the series as well as my first. Forgive me for saying, but that's an awful ending. I really don't want any part of something as dreary and grimdark as that.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Aug 4, 2015 21:27:44 GMT
To be fair, I see what you mean, the the show and books are somewhat like that at times. Just when a good thing happens, bad things happen and instantly nullify the result. Also I'm pretty sure most hardcore GOT fans already figure it ends with everyone dying, I don't because I am an optimistic person, but for the most part, what you said is the generally agreed upon ending of the series. So I get what you mean fully, but if you were a fan of the series, maybe it look better. That, and the fact the game doesn't spell out things from the show also is a major reason you should know the source material first hand. If "Everyone dies" really is the end then this game will probably be my last brush with the series as well as my first. Forgive me for saying, but that's an awful ending. I really don't want any part of something as dreary and grimdark as that. Oh i'm totally with you, I like tension and the fear that you could all die, but actually having that be the ending is not ideal. Perhaps make it an ending if you fail if there are multiple endings, but otherwise its not really in Telltale's best interest.
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Post by IDEK on Aug 4, 2015 22:15:00 GMT
I voted 7.
it's decent.
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Post by Niccc on Aug 4, 2015 22:58:48 GMT
Gonna give an 8/10. It's very good. I thought Iron From Ice was a good setup episode but felt a bit... eh. The Mira parts were verrry slow and the talk with Cersei was just annoying as shit. You can do your best to please her and she still gives you the grumpy face. Oh, fuck off! The Tyrion parts with Mira are also pretty dumb because almost everyone knows that it won't matter in the end.
Plus, some of the game doesn't do some of the show characters justice, they just feel flat out wrong some times. I think Ramsay is done pretty well, but my biggest issue is Tyrion and Daenerys. Sure, Daenerys acts condescending like beyond no repair. The fuck was that? She can be a bitch in the show but she is nowhere near THAT big of a bitch.
Ramsay is an issue with the game sometimes too.. I kinda enjoy his presence (guess why) but I understand why people dislike it. Literally, Telltale could bring Ramsay back for Episode 6 and have him disembowel Elaena. Then he just laughs his ass off, "Got another!" and runs the fuck back to The Dreadfort.
The choices really don't matter for much anyways. It's done better than S2 but not that much. At least it isn't as fucking IRRITATING as S2. I enjoy the story well enough so I don't care about the choices too much anymore. I did like how Telltale actually did something cool and make Finn ACTUALLY HAVE A PRESENCE. I mean, it wasn't heavy at all in Episode 5 but it was in 4. It was a lame death but it was no Nick death. Finn could have died from his finger freezing off and it just bursted because it was too frozen. Then he loses his finger and then dies from shock or something and it would still be better.
I was also disappointed that the save Beskha/Malcolm choice did not matter for shit. I was hoping later on whoever you DIDN'T save would die from an infection of the wounds. They don't act harshly to you, besides one little conversation.
The Dezhor choice was kinda lame too. I killed him as Asher because I was an idiot. She doesn't really seem to care, which I figured she WOULD care considering she's been wanting to kill him FOR SO MANY YEARS. But whatever.
The ironwood deal doesn't matter for shit. What the hell happened to everyone? HOW does Arthur get flayed no matter what if Glenmores were taken to Highpoint? Telltale fails to explain this because.... plot? And shock value? Have an interesting opening scene?
Talking about the traitor thing is pretty much beating a dead horse by this point so we're not gonna go into that.
Episodes 2-4 are really, really good in terms of storyline. Obviously there's some points where its just like, "huh? he-what?" and some of the characters are pretty much Stark rehashes. Good thing I like most of the Starks.
Episode 5 is the one I have the biggest problem with. Too short, poorly written, not really any build up for the final episode. Plus a forced end choice, which was actually well executed. Asher's story had the most interesting parts and Rodrik had some good parts but the events were pretty stupid. I didn't like the opening too well because of Arthur being flayed no matter what. Did they grab Arthur on the way to the fucking forest?
Basically: Episode 1 - 7.5/10 Episode 2 - 9/10 Episode 3 - 9.5/10 Episode 4 - 8.5/10 Episode 5 - 6.5/10
Overall: 8/10
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Post by wakemeup on Aug 4, 2015 23:22:12 GMT
Episdoe 1 was 6/10
...still better than lis
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Post by Niccc on Aug 4, 2015 23:24:51 GMT
Episdoe 1 was 6/10 ...still better than lis Careful now, you'll start another shitstorm like I did in the LiS thread that made some users go over to 4chan to talk about the game.
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