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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 22:41:56 GMT
Who do you think the traitor is?
I was pretty vocal about it being Ortengryn for the first two episodes, then thought of Duncan, but now I'm thinking it's Lady Forrester. Not out of malicious intent, but Ludd Whitehill is blackmailing her by saying "tell us what you're planning or Ryon gets hurt."
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Mar 25, 2015 23:02:03 GMT
Nah, I doubt it's your mother, I just don't think she would go that far, it has to be the maester, I wasn't fully sure of him back in episode 1, now I am very suspicious.
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Post by Tormundo on Mar 25, 2015 23:07:06 GMT
Plot twist: Ryon is the traitor
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Post by Rock114 on Mar 25, 2015 23:07:33 GMT
Plot twist: Ryon is the traitor It's obviously Ethan.
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Post by Tormundo on Mar 25, 2015 23:08:53 GMT
Plot twist: Ryon is the traitor It's obviously Ethan. Hmm, I was thinking on Lord Gregor.
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Post by sos on Mar 26, 2015 2:55:47 GMT
Mama 'Liss.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 3:21:01 GMT
Someone on the TTG forum legit thinks it's Talia.
I mean, I know I'm biased, but wtf r they high or something
Talia isn't even on the council.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 3:28:01 GMT
I doubt its one of them, but I don't know who it might be. We have three eoisodes left so we can wait patiently right
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 4:29:25 GMT
It's either Maester or no one at all - and I'm leaning towards the latter option.
The line about Duncan being Gryff's dog (or something like that) doesn't mean anything, it's there just to throw us off - or else it's the worst and most obvious foreshadowing in TT game ever.
I thought about Royland (he craves for a fight - and what's better than setting up two Houses against each other?) but it just doesn't work for me.
The choice whether to tell Lady Forrester about the traitor also got me thinking, but I see it more as Rodrik being honest with his family, nothing more.
I would choose Maester, because he's mostly neutral towards this whole situation.
But then, in a scene with Gwyn, she said that her father boasts about the fact that he has someone in Forrester Council. Gwyn tries to meet with Rodrik in secret, but Whitehill still finds out about this in some way (he sends a group of soldiers after her). He might as well spread lies in his own House, knowing they will somehow reach Forresters (probably passed forward by Gwyn, who would be very quick to believe this lie - after all, she's so naive she believes that peace between the Houses is still possible).
And what now? Rodrik (and players included) think about who the traitor is, instead of focusing on more important matters - how to defend his House and get Ryon back. We'll be wasting time trying to find the traitor who doesn't exist.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Mar 26, 2015 14:59:37 GMT
It's either Maester or no one at all - and I'm leaning towards the latter option. The line about Duncan being Gryff's dog (or something like that) doesn't mean anything, it's there just to throw us off - or else it's the worst and most obvious foreshadowing in TT game ever. I thought about Royland (he craves for a fight - and what's better than setting up two Houses against each other?) but it just doesn't work for me. The choice whether to tell Lady Forrester about the traitor also got me thinking, but I see it more as Rodrik being honest with his family, nothing more. I would choose Maester, because he's mostly neutral towards this whole situation. But then, in a scene with Gwyn, she said that her father boasts about the fact that he has someone in Forrester Council. Gwyn tries to meet with Rodrik in secret, but Whitehill still finds out about this in some way (he sends a group of soldiers after her). He might as well spread lies in his own House, knowing they will somehow reach Forresters (probably passed forward by Gwyn, who would be very quick to believe this lie - after all, she's so naive she believes that peace between the Houses is still possible). And what now? Rodrik (and players included) think about who the traitor is, instead of focusing on more important matters - how to defend his House and get Ryon back. We'll be wasting time trying to find the traitor who doesn't exist. I don't know, how did she know about the plan to either get rid of Gryff or get Ryon? I think there is a rat, and I say it's the maester. I played episode one a while back and told everyone about The North Grove, Duncan said that Lady Forrester will be easy to convince, the maester will be very difficult, and says and I quote, "I don't trust him with important information." I thought right away that was a strange comment, he could have been just saying that he talks far to often, but now... I wonder.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Mar 26, 2015 15:02:48 GMT
There is one counterbalance though, he DID save Rodrik's life, so that does make me think maybe it's someone else, but who? Royland is not it, he might be quick to anger but he is a honest man, seeing how he willingly fights those three Whitehill soldiers is more then enough proof. I can't rap my head around the idea of Lady Forrester ratting on her own family, I just can't, and Duncan, well, if Gregor trusted him with all this vital info, then isn't that enough? Though I will admit he is a possible suspect. Hell, maybe your right, and there is no rat and this was just to throw us off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 15:27:08 GMT
It's either Maester or no one at all - and I'm leaning towards the latter option. The line about Duncan being Gryff's dog (or something like that) doesn't mean anything, it's there just to throw us off - or else it's the worst and most obvious foreshadowing in TT game ever. I thought about Royland (he craves for a fight - and what's better than setting up two Houses against each other?) but it just doesn't work for me. The choice whether to tell Lady Forrester about the traitor also got me thinking, but I see it more as Rodrik being honest with his family, nothing more. I would choose Maester, because he's mostly neutral towards this whole situation. But then, in a scene with Gwyn, she said that her father boasts about the fact that he has someone in Forrester Council. Gwyn tries to meet with Rodrik in secret, but Whitehill still finds out about this in some way (he sends a group of soldiers after her). He might as well spread lies in his own House, knowing they will somehow reach Forresters (probably passed forward by Gwyn, who would be very quick to believe this lie - after all, she's so naive she believes that peace between the Houses is still possible). And what now? Rodrik (and players included) think about who the traitor is, instead of focusing on more important matters - how to defend his House and get Ryon back. We'll be wasting time trying to find the traitor who doesn't exist. I don't know, how did she know about the plan to either get rid of Gryff or get Ryon? I think there is a rat, and I say it's the maester. I played episode one a while back and told everyone about The North Grove, Duncan said that Lady Forrester will be easy to convince, the maester will be very difficult, and says and I quote, "I don't trust him with important information." I thought right away that was a strange comment, he could have been just saying that he talks far to often, but now... I wonder. TT might explain it with their story tricks that Ludd made a lucky guess about Ryon/Gryff - similarly to TWAU Ep4 when your looking for a shard, but you'll never find it in the first location, with NPC's commenting that tej shard is 'obviously' in the other location. As for Maester saving Rodrik - we don't know that. He might as well be delaying his recovery, treating him as little as possible while saying he's doing everything he can. And remember that scene in Ep2 when he picks up a knife/saw covered in blood while performing a surgery on Rodrik? Now that would be a subtle foreshadowing.
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Mar 26, 2015 15:56:11 GMT
I don't know, how did she know about the plan to either get rid of Gryff or get Ryon? I think there is a rat, and I say it's the maester. I played episode one a while back and told everyone about The North Grove, Duncan said that Lady Forrester will be easy to convince, the maester will be very difficult, and says and I quote, "I don't trust him with important information." I thought right away that was a strange comment, he could have been just saying that he talks far to often, but now... I wonder. TT might explain it with their story tricks that Ludd made a lucky guess about Ryon/Gryff - similarly to TWAU Ep4 when your looking for a shard, but you'll never find it in the first location, with NPC's commenting that tej shard is 'obviously' in the other location. As for Maester saving Rodrik - we don't know that. He might as well be delaying his recovery, treating him as little as possible while saying he's doing everything he can. And remember that scene in Ep2 when he picks up a knife/saw covered in blood while performing a surgery on Rodrik? Now that would be a subtle foreshadowing. I don't buy it, I got a feeling there is a traitor, hell it wouldn't be Game of Thrones unless there was a major betrayal, it's kind of a hallmark of the series. The bloody saw I just assume was cutting away all the dead flesh, but maybe it did mean something. Well regardless they did make me think long and hard and now I am slightly paranoid, which I assume was what Telltale was aiming for all along.
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Post by Autobot Sonic on Apr 6, 2015 13:02:48 GMT
It has to be Lady Forrester. She seemed WAY too shocked to know there was a traitor (in my playthrough), almost as if she was playing it up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 15:56:05 GMT
I still say there's no traitor.
Ludd loves messing with people, like he said in Ep2 that Lady Foresterr was practically begging him to come to Ironrath, even though she only asked for Ryon to be able to attend the funeral.
But I guess we'll see what TT will come up with. Unless we're looking at a TFTB situation - someone from Ironrath made a deal with Ludd while having good itentions, like keeping him away from there. If that's the case, then I'll say it's Maester.
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