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Post by Tormundo on May 8, 2018 17:24:52 GMT
So... Can we say Gimple fucked it up already? He's not the showrunner and he only wrote the first episode i.e. the best one, so no, I'm more inclined to blame the current showrunners. Or, just in general whoever's idea it was to split the storyline into past and present like this, and also to kill Nick, and whoever wrote episode 4 bc it was painfully heavy-handed and full of awkward dialogue and weird pacing. All that said, I am looking forward to next week's episode bc it's a John and Morgan solo episode, and they've been the best characters so far. Well. We gotta blame someone, right?
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Post by Niccc on May 8, 2018 17:28:03 GMT
Gimple planned out the season with the showrunners. He's said this in interviews. Gimple loves doing a storyline without linearity.
And yeah, this season sucks. Episode 1 was the best one... haven't really liked any of the other ones. Sunday's episode was the worst by far. Terrible storytelling.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 18:23:42 GMT
The frustrating thing is, Gimple's non-linear style can work. "What's Happened and What's Going On" is the single best episode of TWD mainly because of the non-linear way it's told and all the weirdness that happens in it. Gimple is also fantastic at writing individual episodes. I just think he needs to realize that maybe the approach that worked for some seasons or some episodes, isn't the best approach for everything.
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Post by Niccc on May 8, 2018 20:39:33 GMT
I think Gimple's good at writing episodes, just he's gotten bad at planning seasons out.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 1:49:38 GMT
i guess im one of the few here who likes season 4 so far? now that im caught up, i will say i enjoy this better than twd. i like that this show is basically a modern day western with zombies, even having a gunslinger type character in the show. the series as a whole had it's ups and downs, but i think it's pretty good overall
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 2:57:39 GMT
I don't hate this season so far. The first episode was fantastic. Episode Two I liked less, but still thought it was pretty solid. Episode three I thought was pretty great until the death at the end, which I thought was dumb. So far, episode 4 is the only one I've actively disliked. I'm looking forward to next week's episode tho, bc it's a John and Morgan solo episode, which should be pretty cool.
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Post by Niccc on May 9, 2018 4:03:40 GMT
Ye John is the best character.
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Post by o0HeaDShoT0o on May 14, 2018 2:08:35 GMT
I liked John Dorie's backstory in this episode. That singing bass alarm clock of his is awesome.
The relationship between him and Laura/Naomi is nice. She mentioned that she lost her child. I'm back to thinking that she is, or was, Charlie's mom.
I don't get why John didn't just pull the machete stuck in that walker to kill it. Eh, whatever. The tale of his intentional mistake of using his gun was sad. Felt bad for him.
Okay, so plugging that hole in the fence may not have been such a good idea after all. But I did like seeing John dual-wielding his pistols like that. That intimate moment of theirs was sweet.
This episode was pretty good.
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Post by Niccc on May 14, 2018 3:02:59 GMT
Boooring
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Post by o0HeaDShoT0o on May 21, 2018 2:08:46 GMT
Goddamn. Shooting off a man's finger. Hell of a way to start an episode.
Naomi has tried ditching them so many times, it's like why does she even bother staying with them if she didn't want to?
Madison seemed to have taken Strand's confession about his getaway car better than I had thought she would. That stunt Naomi did on that rope reminded me of Spencer's performance in Alexandria. I feel bad for her for what happened to her daughter, Rose.
It felt good to see their victory over the Vultures when they came driving back with what they found. But then it turns out that Naomi is alive, she's working with the Vultures, and then Alicia ends up shooting John when she was aiming for Naomi. And they had just got back together again, too. John better live to see another day.
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Post by Niccc on May 21, 2018 6:08:32 GMT
How is this show getting bad so fast
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Post by o0HeaDShoT0o on Jun 4, 2018 0:45:01 GMT
I was looking forward to seeing the next episode last week. Instead, there was nothing but a "JAWS" movie marathon.
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Post by o0HeaDShoT0o on Jun 4, 2018 2:10:23 GMT
I didn't expect Mel to have survived that grenade blast Alicia dealt him. Shame that Alicia made sure he won't be living to tell the tale about that. Though, I'm a little peeved she shot John, even though she was aiming for Naomi, because she couldn't control himself. I don't even understand why she and Strand were shooting at the truck. Morgan and Al were going to get John help for his wound, which Alicia caused. Why try and stop them?
Even though he's dead, it's still good to see Nick in the flashbacks. I laughed when Naomi said she would chain herself to the pipes if Madison tried to remove the showers. And now we know why he had a grudge against Ennis. He unleashed a massive herd on the stadium, despite the fact his brother was in the car with Alicia and Nick.
Next episode will be the mid-Season finale. We may finally learn what happened to Madison. If she's still alive, who knows how she'll react to the fact Charlie shot her son. Hell, she killed Troy the second he admitted to being responsible for the destruction of the ranch, which could've gotten both her kids killed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 0:48:28 GMT
Bad show
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Post by Bioshock Infinite WD on Jun 8, 2018 20:07:30 GMT
Boy the general opinion really has flipped.
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