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Post by DomeWing333 on Aug 29, 2014 11:28:15 GMT
We saw how she handled being slapped by Carlos for the first time. After giving her a really good pep talk and getting to see that it was Carver and not her dad that did it, she was still moping around and not being able to concentrate. The same thing happens at/after the trailer incident. Words just don't seem to get through to her when she's in her depressive stupor. That didn't seem like something that was likely to go away any time soon.
Kenny knew that if he shot and missed that Alvin would die. He was willing to take that chance to save the group. So he at least had benevolent intentions. Sarah, on the other hand, just didn't focus. And it seemed to me like she knew what was about to happen to Reggie when Carver came in. She didn't seem to scream or react very much at all when it happened. That was actually kind of concerning to me.
I don't think she thought that he could take her. She underestimated the power of a man at the end of his rope, I guess. I don't see what knocking Kenny out before the fight would have done. The fight was the thing that was meant to show how unhinged Kenny was, that he wanted to kill with his bare hands a member of the group over a mistake without giving them a chance to explain themselves. I don't think the reason for Jane telling Clem not to intervene was to give herself the opportunity to kill Kenny; it was 1) to have her watch the full extent of Kenny's rage and 2) to protect her from the repercussions of it. She thought she would be able to get the upper hand. She was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 16:33:09 GMT
I imagine that Sarah, with how her mentality worked, needed some time to process this 'slapping' situation. She just needed to think this over in her own time. At the beginning of the season she kept pestering Clementine about 'being friends', even if we refused her proposals. After all these traumatic experiences of Ep3 and Ep4, when consoling her, she finaly and surely says 'we're not friends'. That was one of the best scenes of that Episode. So yeah, I think that, even though it was a slow process, she would finaly adapt to the reality around her. Remember that Sarah's thoughts ("why people have to be mean?") are repeated by Clementine during the showdown in the finale (not exact quote, but it was something like "that's all of us left, we can't kill each other" - unfortunately, they do).
Kenny's ways of helping the group also often result with death, and it can't be brushed off as 'he didn't know that people will die'. The situation with Alvin in Ep2 - think about it this way: Kenny kills one of Carver's henchmen, so Carver kills Walter and says that he will kill someone else if Kenny doesn't stop. It's not an empty threat, we just saw Walter's execution. Logic says - throw down your gun in surrender. What is Kenny doing? He keeps on shooting. When Kenny says that he was trying to protect the group, Rebecca perfectly points out that his 'protection' led to Alvin's death. Not to mention that Kenny murdered Larry and encouraged Lee to kill Ben "for the greater good".
And even if we assume that Kenny would have killed Carver with one clean shot - what would happen? We know that Bonnie would probably do nothing, but I imagine Troy would have a field day killing everybody on sight.
Sarah also didn't bother with the deaths of Alvin, Nick and Pete. I imagine she probably felt for them, but wasn't vocal about it because of her seclusion. The only time she totally lost it was Carlos's death.
I think she thought she could take him. After all, she was a skilled, physically fit young woman fighting against a seriously injured old man. She might not want to kill Kenny INITIALLY, but once they were on a playground, they fought to death. What I mean by saying 'knock him out' was that the initial stage of the fight would happen as it was presented in the game, but when they were outside and she stuck her fingers in his eye, she could have hit him over the head with either the broken pole of the sign or the handle of the knife to leave him uncoscious for a several minutes and then address Clementine, "See? He's unhinged. He'll try to kill us for every misstep. Let's go!" and the game would present us with an option 'Go with Jane/Stay with Kenny'. With the first one, Jane and Clem would take TJ and run away, and in the second one Kenny would be slowly waking up and Jane would run away on her own, deciding there's no time for her to go and fetch AJ, and Clem and Kenny would find him on their own, just like they do in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 23:17:27 GMT
I have my own thoughts, and I kinda disagree with both of you, but I gotta say, it's a breath of fresh air to see someone other than me getting into a debate, even if I sorta started it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 23:20:02 GMT
I just saw the Jane endings. Those are..... Uh... Doesn't feel like a real ending. Either of them. The Alone ending is better than either of the ones with Jane.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 23:26:54 GMT
Gonna space the endings out, from best to worst:
Staying in Wellington
Leaving with Kenny
Jane endings
Alone with AJ
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 23:28:16 GMT
Gonna space the endings out, from best to worst: Staying in Wellington Leaving with Kenny Jane endings Alone with AJ You know me so well, Heis. Though I do think that pushing the family away is a worse ending than alone, you're pretty goddamn close.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 23:45:29 GMT
Oh, should I space them out too?
Leaving with Kenny Staying at Wellington
Alone
Go with Jane, Invite Family
Go with Jane, Turn Family Away
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Aug 29, 2014 23:53:54 GMT
In terms of emotional impact? Pretty much agree with the stuff above.
But in terms of pragmatism, the only one I don't see coming back to potentially bite you in the ass is Wellington. And even then, that might be a Crawford.
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