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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 21:16:32 GMT
Season three could wind up having Clem just joining the group (probably Wellington) at various points depending on the ending you got. She wouldn't play a major role until she was at the camp in all scenarios. Example: -If you entered Welintion, obviously Clementine would be there at the start of episode one. The PC would have a brief conversation with her, and maybe another kid. If Clementine wasn't there, he'd just have a brief conversation with the other kid. -If you left Wellington with Kenny, then Clementine would still be in Wellington in episode one, and we would later find out that she had been let in a few months later, but Kenny had been killed. - If you got the alone ending, Clementine will be in Wellington, because she decided to check up north once things got a bit warmer. She'll be there in episode one. Now, here's for the challenge: The Howe's endings. My take on it is that the Slowly building community at Howe's will get taken over by a much larger group, a large group of nomads who are kinda assholes, but not entirely. Very expansionist, and you don't really have a choice to join them or not, but they do take relatively good care of children. Kinda. I don't know the details. Either way, the PC would wind up infiltrating this group at some point with some other people. I'm not sure of the exat reasoning, maybe to get some info on when they plan to attack Wellington. When you guys bust out, Clem would find you and ask what you're doing. When she realizes you're escaping, she'll ask to come with you. If you decide to be an absolute douche, someone else will override your choice and say she can come. Either way, Clem would eventually wind up in Wellington. Why couldn't Kenny just exist as a minor character as well? Honestly, Clem's story should really just end completely. No matter what, even appearing as a minor character, it would result in an off-screen death for Kenny/Jane, or have them be completely pushed aside. The only two things for Season 3 I'd be okay with is if: A. Very, very unlikely, but if Telltale continued Season 3 with 3-5(Kenny and Jane endings could re-connect in Episode 1) separate storylines. B. New story, new characters, Clem, Kenny, AJ, or Jane do not appear at all, even in a cameo.
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Sept 18, 2014 0:10:05 GMT
Season three could wind up having Clem just joining the group (probably Wellington) at various points depending on the ending you got. She wouldn't play a major role until she was at the camp in all scenarios. Example: -If you entered Welintion, obviously Clementine would be there at the start of episode one. The PC would have a brief conversation with her, and maybe another kid. If Clementine wasn't there, he'd just have a brief conversation with the other kid. -If you left Wellington with Kenny, then Clementine would still be in Wellington in episode one, and we would later find out that she had been let in a few months later, but Kenny had been killed. - If you got the alone ending, Clementine will be in Wellington, because she decided to check up north once things got a bit warmer. She'll be there in episode one. Now, here's for the challenge: The Howe's endings. My take on it is that the Slowly building community at Howe's will get taken over by a much larger group, a large group of nomads who are kinda assholes, but not entirely. Very expansionist, and you don't really have a choice to join them or not, but they do take relatively good care of children. Kinda. I don't know the details. Either way, the PC would wind up infiltrating this group at some point with some other people. I'm not sure of the exat reasoning, maybe to get some info on when they plan to attack Wellington. When you guys bust out, Clem would find you and ask what you're doing. When she realizes you're escaping, she'll ask to come with you. If you decide to be an absolute douche, someone else will override your choice and say she can come. Either way, Clem would eventually wind up in Wellington. Why couldn't Kenny just exist as a minor character as well? Honestly, Clem's story should really just end completely. No matter what, even appearing as a minor character, it would result in an off-screen death for Kenny/Jane, or have them be completely pushed aside. The only two things for Season 3 I'd be okay with is if: A. Very, very unlikely, but if Telltale continued Season 3 with 3-5(Kenny and Jane endings could re-connect in Episode 1) separate storylines. B. New story, new characters, Clem, Kenny, AJ, or Jane do not appear at all, even in a cameo. We pretty much know 2's not happening. Doesn't bode well for Kenny or Jane, unless we determinately come across them very briefly. Some of these proposed connections are good, but the overarching question is whether Telltale can achieve them with the resources they have. And I'm leaning towards no.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 1:52:38 GMT
Why couldn't Kenny just exist as a minor character as well? Honestly, Clem's story should really just end completely. No matter what, even appearing as a minor character, it would result in an off-screen death for Kenny/Jane, or have them be completely pushed aside. The only two things for Season 3 I'd be okay with is if: A. Very, very unlikely, but if Telltale continued Season 3 with 3-5(Kenny and Jane endings could re-connect in Episode 1) separate storylines. B. New story, new characters, Clem, Kenny, AJ, or Jane do not appear at all, even in a cameo. We pretty much know 2's not happening. Doesn't bode well for Kenny or Jane, unless we determinately come across them very briefly. Some of these proposed connections are good, but the overarching question is whether Telltale can achieve them with the resources they have. And I'm leaning towards no. Why would the second one not happen? As for re-connecting the storylines to just get us, Alone, Kenny/Wellington and Jane paths, that would be fairly simple. But yes, the question of if they can do it with the resources that have... Yeah, probably not, but then again, if Tales from the Borderlands and Game of Thrones/Iron from Ice are successful, then... maybe. Really, it would just be a question of making 15 episodes instead of 5, and releasing them in groups of 3. When you put it that way, it doesn't sound AS impossible. And, well, any question of it being a loss on their part, considering the amount of recognition they'd get from it? I'd say it would most likely be worth it. Ways to reconnect the endings(I believe I posted this somewhere else before?): Kenny/Wellington Ending Takes place several months later, with Kenny, Clem, Kenny, and AJ(possibly one more person, like how Mark was introduced after a time skip, but lets just assume them) are on their way back to Wellington, checking to see if they can be let in. They get boxed in by a herd, barely ahead of the walkers, they make it to the gate. People from Wellington start shooting the walkers coming over the hill. Kenny and Clem still have their weapons, and Edith(or someone) wants them to stay on the other side of the gate while the walkers are being dealt with. We're given a choice to convince Edith to open the gate, or threaten her. If we do nothing, then Kenny will do one or the other(most likely threaten). If we convinced Edith(or someone else, but most likely her), then she'll be scolded by someone else(the leader?). If we threatened her(or if Kenny did), then the people in Wellington will trust Clem less. Stayed at Wellington, several months later, we get a bit to meet new characters, get used to Wellington. Clem might do some sort of job on the gate with Edith(Kenny asked Edith to keep an eye on her, so it would make sense), and it would be largely the same scenario. We're given a choice to open the gate ourselves, convince Edith to, Tell Kenny(and whoever else) to wait, or do nothing. Open the gate, Clem is scolded by leader or whoever is in charge, or maybe just some random asshole character, convince Edith, Edith is in that situation, Tell Kenny to wait, and he threatens Edith, is a little angry at Clem maybe, same if we do nothing(or, it's possible Kenny tries to convince her, but most likely threaten). If Kenny threatens Edith, other people trust him less, we might get a choice to vouch for him or not. After that, mostly the same. Alone Ending Nothing special, just some random extra dialogue choices to who Clem meets on how she ended up alone. "I was with a man, Kenny, he killed this girl and I had kill him", "I was with this girl, Jane, she got someone else killed and I had to leave her.", etc. Jane Ending I'm not really sure with this. I assume it will just be something as simple as Randy and his family come back, he tries to re-negotiate, walkers come, Jane/Clem let's them in. Only real difference being that Randy and the family will trust Clem and Jane a whole lot less.
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Post by thatstoomuchfestivity on Sept 18, 2014 1:55:34 GMT
We pretty much know 2's not happening. Doesn't bode well for Kenny or Jane, unless we determinately come across them very briefly. Some of these proposed connections are good, but the overarching question is whether Telltale can achieve them with the resources they have. And I'm leaning towards no. Why would the second one not happen? As for re-connecting the storylines to just get us, Alone, Kenny/Wellington and Jane paths, that would be fairly simple. But yes, the question of if they can do it with the resources that have... Yeah, probably not, but then again, if Tales from the Borderlands and Game of Thrones/Iron from Ice are successful, then... maybe. Really, it would just be a question of making 15 episodes instead of 5, and releasing them in groups of 3. When you put it that way, it doesn't sound AS impossible. And, well, any question of it being a loss on their part, considering the amount of recognition they'd get from it? I'd say it would most likely be worth it. Ways to reconnect the endings(I believe I posted this somewhere else before?): Kenny/Wellington Ending Takes place several months later, with Kenny, Clem, Kenny, and AJ(possibly one more person, like how Mark was introduced after a time skip, but lets just assume them) are on their way back to Wellington, checking to see if they can be let in. They get boxed in by a herd, barely ahead of the walkers, they make it to the gate. People from Wellington start shooting the walkers coming over the hill. Kenny and Clem still have their weapons, and Edith(or someone) wants them to stay on the other side of the gate while the walkers are being dealt with. We're given a choice to convince Edith to open the gate, or threaten her. If we do nothing, then Kenny will do one or the other(most likely threaten). If we convinced Edith(or someone else, but most likely her), then she'll be scolded by someone else(the leader?). If we threatened her(or if Kenny did), then the people in Wellington will trust Clem less. Stayed at Wellington, several months later, we get a bit to meet new characters, get used to Wellington. Clem might do some sort of job on the gate with Edith(Kenny asked Edith to keep an eye on her, so it would make sense), and it would be largely the same scenario. We're given a choice to open the gate ourselves, convince Edith to, Tell Kenny(and whoever else) to wait, or do nothing. Open the gate, Clem is scolded by leader or whoever is in charge, or maybe just some random asshole character, convince Edith, Edith is in that situation, Tell Kenny to wait, and he threatens Edith, is a little angry at Clem maybe, same if we do nothing(or, it's possible Kenny tries to convince her, but most likely threaten). If Kenny threatens Edith, other people trust him less, we might get a choice to vouch for him or not. After that, mostly the same. Alone Ending Nothing special, just some random extra dialogue choices to who Clem meets on how she ended up alone. "I was with a man, Kenny, he killed this girl and I had kill him", "I was with this girl, Jane, she got someone else killed and I had to leave her.", etc. Jane Ending I'm not really sure with this. I assume it will just be something as simple as Randy and his family come back, he tries to re-negotiate, walkers come, Jane/Clem let's them in. Only real difference being that Randy and the family will trust Clem and Jane a whole lot less. Like I said, they've basically confirmed Clem will appear in some capacity next season. If you left option B with just Jane and Kenny not appearing, maybe that scenario would be plausible.
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